Why is homosexuality focused upon, but disobedience of the commandments ignored?

brightmorningstar said:

The answer is beanieboy, why when you don’t acknowledge the Bible condemnations of same sex relationships do you expect others to acknowledge the 10 commandments? Reminds me of the speck and the plank and the bit where one looks down on another.

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I have researched the supposed condemnations of the Bible on homosexuality, and I don't think the bible condemns it at all. Any in depth research would show that it isn't a cut and dried case. If one looks only at the English text, out of context, doesn't see who is talking, to whom, and about what, then you can condemn anything.

Such people, for example, look to Leviticus, and point to the clear condemnation of homosexuality. Eating shellfish and pork are condemnations in Leviticus. A husband is not to sleep with his wife while menstrating. You can't point to "this counts" while saying just about EVERYTHING else in Leviticus doesn't.

But the point of the OP? Not that I am arguing that homosexual is or isn't sin. I am asking why it is focused upon SO MUCH MORE than the obvious breaking of the 10 Commandments - such as, worshipping materialism or wealth, or swearing, of saying o my g, etc.

How can one dare to hold up homosexuality as some important sin while all around them, the 10 commandments are being broken, and they are silent about them?

THAT is my point.

I don't spend a lot of time talking about hetersexuals being promiscuous, or heterosexuals who seem to emulate porn stars and strippers these days, or heterosexuals who insist on enlarging their breasts and revealing them as much as legally possible, or heterosexuals who employ prostitutes. It would make no sense that I don't address my own life, or talk about the gay community and promiscuity.

To only focus on heterosexual immorality is just trying to pull focus away from myself, and says more about me than them.

Today, I was at the gym. One of the many TV's had a movie on where a bunch of guys were having a stag party. There were 2 girls - strippers. The one started and took off her cheerleader-like uniform, simulating pedophilia of a high school girl. The other girl helped her take off her clothes, undoing her skirt with her teeth. The women kissed and ran their hands over each other, to the delight of the ogling men. And this was a TV Movie on W.

Were the men upset because it was homosexuality? Seriously? They think it is hot. They think it is hot when two girls act sexual toward one another, because it is for the benefit of the men.

And when are they doing this? Usually before the guy gets married, as part of his bachelor party. That's how he approaches his marriage - with hookers, who lap dance, even offering the men sex sometimes, or allowing the men to watch the two women have sex with each other.

Before you say, "that's only a movie", does that happen? Yeah. It actually happens. That's why it's believable when it happens in a movie - because it happens in real life.

But it isn't homosexuality between women that men are disgusted with, or bothered with, but encourage it, and enjoy it, when it is done for their benefit.

So, before you want to talk about the "sin of homosexuality," answer for the lust of heterosexual men who have girl on girl porn, hire strippers, go to strippers where nude women give them lap dances, as part of their ritual of getting married, and we can talk.

But I don't think homosexuality, and it being a sin, or edifying one's homosexual Christian brothers has ever been the point. I think it is simply to condemn others while forgiving oneself.

Penumbra said:

Well, Job was rich and righteous, and after testing him, God doubled his riches, right?

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Jesus was poor. He was born in a stable. He was a carpenter, not an earthly king. Was he, because he was poor, not following God the Father?

To the wealthy man, unwilling to sell all that he had, he said, "It is harder for the rich man to enter the Kingdom than a camel to pass through the eye of a needle.

Why would he say that if rich=obedient to God?

brightmorningstar said:

The answer is beanieboy, why when you don’t acknowledge the Bible condemnations of same sex relationships do you expect others to acknowledge the 10 commandments? Reminds me of the speck and the plank and the bit where one looks down on another.

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I have actually debated with Christians on this board, saying that "one should love your neighbor as yourself," to have them reply, "Why should I!"

Loving God, and loving others as you do yourself, according to the words of Christ himself, which are a commandment, fulfill the law.

Such people really have no place to be telling me what is and isn't sin, when they blantantly disobey the command of Christ, and don't acknowledge it.

It's a bit like Christians says o mg, something that you can't even abbreviate on this board, and then demand nonChristians to be obedient to a Law they don't even follow themselves.

And that makes sense to you?