Why is God mysterious?

Chesterton · Oct 31, 2014

I must be very mysterious to my dog, even though it would be fun, his brain won't allow me to communicate my reality to him. It might be the same with God and us. So you say "but if you had omnipotent-like power you should be able to communicate to a dog as a dog would understand you". And that's what I think God did through Jesus Christ. He became like us to communicate on our level, and to communicate certain things which He considered most important (such as to love and help each other), but not to communicate every aspect of His reality or reality in general to satisfy our curiosity.

Chesterton · Oct 31, 2014

netzarim said:

Your interpretation would be a lot more convincing if this were a photograph, which would be easy enough to make these days what with rockets and all.

ananda · Oct 31, 2014

Chesterton said:
Your interpretation would be a lot more convincing if this were a photograph, which would be easy enough to make these days what with rockets and all.

It's impossible, since photographs can only take a photo of the specific circular area of the earth currently lighted by the sun at any particular moment:

bhsmte · Oct 31, 2014

netzarim said:
It's impossible, since photographs can only take a photo of the specific circular area of the earth currently lighted by the sun at any particular moment:

But if the earth was flat, there should be moments when the sun is lighting up the entire surface, of a flat earth.

In your picture above, it appears the sun's light never reaches the moon. How can this be?

ananda · Oct 31, 2014

bhsmte said:
But if the earth was flat, there should be moments when the sun is lighting up the entire surface, of a flat earth.

... that is, if one assumes that the sun is sphere shining in every direction ... instead of a sun that is a spotlight.

ananda · Oct 31, 2014

bhsmte said:
In your picture above, it appears the sun's light never reaches the moon. How can this be?

The moon emits its own light, as Scripture teaches: Isa 13,10, 30:26, Eze 32:7, Mt 24:29, Mk 13:24

Chesterton · Oct 31, 2014

netzarim said:
... that is, if one assumes that the sun is sphere shining in every direction ... instead of a sun that is a spotlight.

Ah the sun is also flat. That explains it. You're not bad. But the sun is much, much bigger than the earth right? The beam from a very large flashlight, excuse me, spotlight, should have no trouble covering all of the flat earth? Are am I wrong to listen to the people who think the sun is very big?

bhsmte · Oct 31, 2014

netzarim said:
The moon emits its own light, as Scripture teaches: Isa 13,10, 30:26, Eze 32:7, Mt 24:29, Mk 13:24

How does that happen, where does the light source come from?

ananda · Oct 31, 2014

Chesterton said:
Ah the sun is also flat. That explains it. You're not bad. But the sun is much, much bigger than the earth right? The beam from a very large flashlight, excuse me, spotlight, should have no trouble covering all of the flat earth? Are am I wrong to listen to the people who think the sun is very big?

No, the sun is quite near and small, maybe only a few thousand miles away from the earth at most.

Look at photos of crepuscular sunlight shining through clouds:

Triangulate the position of the sun from the angle of the rays. The sun cannot be millions of miles away and huge. If it was, the rays would all be virtually straight lines and not angled so far.

MyLordMySavior · Oct 31, 2014

God wants us to have faith!

ananda · Oct 31, 2014

bhsmte said:
How does that happen, where does the light source come from?

I don't know Maybe God made it to naturally glow?

bhsmte · Oct 31, 2014

MyLordMySavior said:
God wants us to have faith!

If one needs to believe in something badly enough, they will appear, whether they be a God, aliens or ghosts.

And if God wants us to have faith in him, he should know what each person requires to believe in him.

bhsmte · Oct 31, 2014

netzarim said:
I don't know Maybe God made it to naturally glow?

Well, we were on the moon, I can't recall them noticing this "glow". Or, do you believe the moon landings were faked?

MyLordMySavior · Oct 31, 2014

netzarim said:
No, the sun is quite near and small, maybe only a few thousand miles away from the earth at most.

Look at photos of crepuscular sunlight shining through clouds:

Triangulate the position of the sun from the angle of the rays. The sun cannot be millions of miles away and huge. If it was, the rays would all be virtually straight lines and not angled so far.

I'm not debating, just wondering, haha. Could the rays of the sun be being bent by the clouds, maybe the water in the clouds the way a pyramid crystal can bend a beam of light to break it into colors? It seems the only time the rays of the sun are bent is when their are certain cloud formations in sunset/morning what not.

True Scotsman · Oct 31, 2014

variant said:
We would all just be theists then, except people who like to deny obvious realities like holocaust denial, flat earthers and such.

Yes we would if we were not irrational. But god would be just another natural thing and not the all powerful consciousness that can make water turn instantly to wine, a mountain move from here to there or a man walk on unfrozen water. As long as it is mysteeeeerious it can can do anything the believer wants and no questions can be asked about how. It is outside the realm nature so therefore outside the realm of cognition.

ananda · Oct 31, 2014

bhsmte said:
Well, we were on the moon, I can't recall them noticing this "glow". Or, do you believe the moon landings were faked?

It could've been faked. Or, they did travel to a flat spotlight of a moon and misinformation was delivered to preserve the current prevailing cosmology.

I don't think they traveled to a spherical moon, allegedly 380,000km+ miles away, especially when the radioactive Van Allen belts only 1,000km above the earth would prevent such travel.

Ever wonder why only one side of the moon can only be seen, or why we haven't returned again since 1972 with a live feed and manned?

bhsmte · Oct 31, 2014

netzarim said:
It could've been faked. Or, they did travel to a flat spotlight of a moon and misinformation was delivered.

I don't think they traveled to a spherical moon, allegedly 380,000km+ miles away, especially when the radioactive Van Allen belts only 1,000km above the earth would prevent such travel.

Ever wonder why only one side of the moon can only be seen, or why we haven't returned again since 1972 with a live feed and manned?

Ok, I'm done, thanks.

ananda · Oct 31, 2014

MyLordMySavior said:
I'm not debating, just wondering, haha. Could the rays of the sun be being bent by the clouds, maybe the water in the clouds the way a pyramid crystal can bend a beam of light to break it into colors? It seems the only time the rays of the sun are bent is when their are certain cloud formations in sunset/morning what not.

I doubt that the rays are being bent. Look at the light hitting the tops of the clouds; it seems consistent with the rays beneath the clouds, and triangulates similarly.

MyLordMySavior · Oct 31, 2014

netzarim said:
It could've been faked. Or, they did travel to a flat spotlight of a moon and misinformation was delivered to preserve the current prevailing cosmology.

I don't think they traveled to a spherical moon, allegedly 380,000km+ miles away, especially when the radioactive Van Allen belts only 1,000km above the earth would prevent such travel.

Ever wonder why only one side of the moon can only be seen, or why we haven't returned again since 1972 with a live feed and manned?

The Van Allen Belt was discovered in 1952, so we knew about ti. Does it prevent anything from getting past it? Because we have a robot on Mars right now (or did) and it had a live feed...I remember because I watched it! Would have the belt prevented our robot from getting to Mars? If our robot can, why can't we?

ananda · Oct 31, 2014

bhsmte said:
Ok, I'm done, thanks.

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