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I know you will continue to deny the evidence. Accepting the evidence would be against your religion.
I can make a similar statement. I know you'll continue to deny the evidence for intelligent design, it's against your religion.
Other's can make a similar statement...I know you'll continue to deny the evidence for a literal six day creation, it's against your religion.
See how that works? Claims without discussion.
Yup. Now please consider the evidence for whale evolution presented by the vestigial hip bones. Don't forget to include acknowledgement of the discovery of other transitional whale species.
And you can explain why similarity isn't evidence.
God gave us science. ...
The shrinking island of so called vestigial structures. One by one we discover that structures that scientists were pretty sure were completely useless do in fact have function. Bones that look like they don't do anything actually provide an anchor to tendons and cartilage. Here is another example once thought to be irrefutable evidence, still occasionally paraded around as such.Well, yes, there is evidence for evolution. For example, one can see vestigial, useless bones in whale skeletons, easily explained as left overs from the evolutionary process, difficult to explain as the result of intelligent design process.
Similarity results in a subjective conclusion. As you pointed out, it looks like....and then you made a guess, a supposition, biased by a preconceived evolutionary viewpoint.
Well, yes, there is evidence for evolution. For example, one can see vestigial, useless bones in whale skeletons, easily explained as left overs from the evolutionary process, difficult to explain as the result of intelligent design process.
If you wish to present a view on the basis of 'looks like'
Is it because it refutes the idea of Adam and Eve, original sin, and coming of Jesus?
Or are there any other reasons?
Here, I believe, is one possible underlying reason for the opposition between evolution's proponents and many of those within Christian camps who oppose evolution...American fundamentalist Christians, especially in and near the South, are among the most vehement anti-evolutionists. A look at pop-creationist literature says that much of it originates in the South. Overwhelmingly, it's literature by males. The same's true of literature from the Australian and other non-American sources. Those authors are men, almost all the time. They are men, most typically, who believe in one form or another of the subordination of women to men. This and other high control needs often hinge on "literal" interpretations of scripture. Being (like me) a Christian who buys evolution and an ancient earth requires non-literal interpretations. If the fundies let me have my evolutionist view, they can't have the literalist interpretations they require to satisfy their need for control.To put it simply, the old testament proposes that the earth and life was made within 6 days, however evolution could NEVER happen in such a small space, it takes millions of years for it to occur
Where in this post does Paul say "looks like"?
You accused him of saying "looks like" as if it were a guess earlier here:
Misrepresenting someone is dishonest justlookinla.
Are you going to address the evidence of vestigial bones in whales? It is not a matter of "looks like" as if it were a guess.
VESTIGIAL BONES IS WHAT WE SEE!
Is it because it refutes the idea of Adam and Eve, original sin, and coming of Jesus?
Or are there any other reasons?
Didn't say he did.
If you wish to present a view on the basis of 'looks like'
There are many reasons that a Christian should have a problem with evolution. The reasons you mention are examples of how it tears down the foundations for which the religion is built on. How can anyone understand the need for salvation, if they don't understand creation? The need for salvation is directly tied to creation.Is it because it refutes the idea of Adam and Eve, original sin, and coming of Jesus?
Or are there any other reasons?
You did. You said he is saying "It looks like" when he is saying vestigial bones is what we see.
You misrepresent the post by saying:
When we look at the evidence for evolution, it is not a guess that "it looks like vestigial bones" THEY ARE VESTIGIAL BONES.
Are you going to address it or not? I'm going to guess you won't.
.As new evidence comes along then science and religion need to re evaluate what they believe. In some cases people are stuck with their traditions and are resistant to change. Look at science. At one time a lot of babys died because the doctors did not wash their hands. When a doctor came along that advocated washing their hands he ended up getting fired for his efforts to try and save lives. So in science and religion they like to cling to their traditions and change is not always easy.
The idea that "science" can encompass origins is really quite ridiculous in itself. The scientific process involves observations and experimentation. Understood this way, evolution of species doesn't even qualify as a theory. It seems to be a hypothesis at best and as yet untested. The evidence that gets touted as "proof" of "evolution" supports change within species, or micro evolution. There is no genuine supporting evidence for macro evolution, or species to species change. The evolution that is supported by the science is micro evolution which is not incompatible with a literal interpretation of Genesis (6 day creation). As far as cosmology, there are many holes in the "Big Bang Theory." For example, it doesn't explain why the expansion of the universe is accelerating. Science is a useful tool, but it is not the answer to every question. When we start trying to answer questions such as "where did we come from?" "Why am I here?" we enter the realm of philosophy and religion, not science.Is it because it refutes the idea of Adam and Eve, original sin, and coming of Jesus?
Or are there any other reasons?
Ken Ham explains it well here...
First of all, the "theory of evolution" is a theory. Which means it has not been proven. It does not say that there was no Adam and Eve, the original sin, nor especially the coming of Jesus. It is possible that some of the theory is true but it does NOT disprove God or Jesus.Is it because it refutes the idea of Adam and Eve, original sin, and coming of Jesus?
Or are there any other reasons?
First of all, the "theory of evolution" is a theory. Which means it has not been proven.
I find it difficult to understand your stance if it's not because of your religious beliefs. I mean, actual scientists who have been educated to a higher standard than you in biology, paleontology etc, etc, and who work in these fields every day accept and research the evidence. Are they lying, deluded, conspiring to aid satan or what? Why are you so special that as an interested amateur you can tell professionals they're wrong?
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