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seebs said:1 and 3 are definitively busted. 2LTD only applies to closed systems; no closed systems are in evidence. 1 is silly; even a few signposts along the route suggest a route, even if we could debate exactly what the route was.
Novaknight1 said:That's a common explanation. Unfortunately, 2LTD still applies to open systems. You have to be able to utilize the energy in order for the energy to be of any benefit. Pearl Harbor added a lot of energy. Nothing was organized.
MrBrightSide said:What's up baby, I'm new too.
It is also my understanding that evolution is based upon chance or probability. Now, true, there is something called "natural selection" that is a part of evolution, but it's not evolution itself.
"Naturation selection" is the filtering of genes through generations due to the conditions in an environment. NS (NS=natural selection) can result in a general change of a species' appearance, resistance to disease, hair color, skin color, etc.
However, natural selection cannot result in the changing of one species to another (we humans will not turn into some super robo human race simply by natural selection, which happens around us daily).
Evolution is the changing of a species due to mutation, not NS. (but yes, the proliferation of this change is due to NS)
One problem I see with evolution is the time required for it.
Just look at us humans. Look how different we are (different and equal, mind you)! If you think these thousands upon thousands of differences happens from mutation, I think you need to think about a few things. Of course, let me bring these things to the table.
Mutations occur by blind luck (or misfortunate, as in the case of CF). For this multitude of mutations to occur, there must be many many years of isolation to occur, years I don't think were there to begin with.
For mutations to proliferent, the newly mutated useful gene must be needed (for NS to take place). If NS doesn't take place, then the change will not become widespread. If the change does not become widespread, the species will acquire the change as a whole, thus no change will happen.
Now my question to you is this, how do "small" changes like the shape of an ear, or the shape of one's lips come to be common to one race of us humans?
How come we haven't seen a useful human mutation yet?! (I hope there isn't one documented... that would just destroy my argument)
My not-so-humble-opinions is this, that God, by whatever means he deemed necessary, put us on this earth as a race of people. However, he also gave us this gift called DNA, which allowed us to adapt to our environments using genes ALREADY IN OUR GENE POOLS (no mutation needed).
Now, it's true, mutations happen all the time, but tell me one that has helped the human race that we know of. Bacteria mutate all the time, but those can't be considered changes towards order. Those are changes of entropy (in the direction of disorder), even if they are helpful to their survival.
This also has lead me to believe that there is an end, proof that God isn't going to let us hang down here forever.
If all the changes/mutations that happened to our race are negative,
Novaknight1 said:That's a common explanation. Unfortunately, 2LTD still applies to open systems. You have to be able to utilize the energy in order for the energy to be of any benefit. Pearl Harbor added a lot of energy. Nothing was organized.
Novaknight1 said:That's a common explanation. Unfortunately, 2LTD still applies to open systems. You have to be able to utilize the energy in order for the energy to be of any benefit. Pearl Harbor added a lot of energy. Nothing was organized.
Novaknight1 said:That's a common explanation. Unfortunately, 2LTD still applies to open systems. You have to be able to utilize the energy in order for the energy to be of any benefit. Pearl Harbor added a lot of energy. Nothing was organized.
Rising Tree said:How'd this thread get resurrected?
The OP was my first post ever on CF. Just goes to show you how much I've changed.
The only thing one can be certain about is that one cannot be certain about everything.Jet Black said:you are even more certain that evolution is false?
Rising Tree said:The only thing one can be certain about is that one cannot be certain about everything.
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