I started reading this thread this morning, but gave up midway through page 2. It's just too discouraging to see the bickering and arrogance.
Obviously some of you believe it is essential to know if God chose you or if you responded to God. To me, that's like the old "which came first the chicken or the egg." If I'm a chicken farmer, I'd better stop worrying about such questions and simply take good care of my chickens!!
I know that there are scriptures that appear to support Calvinism, but Calvinists better admit that there are a LOT of verses that would say otherwise. (can you tell, I'm not calvinist, but I do agree that many verses seem to support it). I'm humble enough to say "I don't know for sure!!!" Because now "we see through a glass dimly" and we are NEVER going to understand everything about God and His Word until we are with Him in heaven!
Basically I don't care if God chose me or if I responded to God. I am saved now and I praise God for that! The doctrine of election has nothing whatsoever to do with how I treat my husband, my children, my neighbors, how I view God as being full of infinite majesty, love, mercy, and holiness. It has nothing whatsoever to do with how I try to use a "gentle answer which turns away wrath," or that I try to do "nothing out of selfish ambition," or "let no unwholesome word come out of my mouth." I could, of course, go on and on.
Arguments like these show a lot more of the human sin nature than they show the love of Christ. I know it's a cliche, but can't we just agree to disagree, and praise the Lord for each other's salvation?