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You do not even know what is a bird. The definition you gave does not work on dinosaurs.
No, it's not literally correct. And that is only critical if was intended by its author(s) to be literally correct.Scientifically, Gen 1 is literally correct. This is very critical.
That is a silly argument. I don't even believe you are convinced by it yourself, so why should anyone else be? There is no "compromise." There is only what intelligent and well-informed Bible scholarship tells us, and it doesn't necessarily tell us the same thing about all the verses in the Bible.If one compromised there, one may compromise at any other verse in the whole Bible.
Looks like juvenissun is here to derail threads...No, it's not literally correct. And that is only critical if was intended by its author(s) to be literally correct. That is a silly argument. I don't even believe you are convinced by it yourself, so why should anyone else be? There is no "compromise." There is only what intelligent and well-informed Bible scholarship tells us, and it doesn't necessarily tell us the same thing about all the verses in the Bible.
No, it's not literally correct. And that is only critical if was intended by its author(s) to be literally correct. That is a silly argument. I don't even believe you are convinced by it yourself, so why should anyone else be? There is no "compromise." There is only what intelligent and well-informed Bible scholarship tells us, and it doesn't necessarily tell us the same thing about all the verses in the Bible.
Since christians cant even agree on the true meaning of bible verses, who has final say, you?
No, that's a new one on me. So interesting, in fact, that I don't care if we derail this thread. Please explain it.Sigh, you still do not understand. I will tell you one more time, but I don't expect any improvement would happen.
EVERY Christians is right on Bible truth even they have different interpretation.
Different interpretation is not the same as compromise. I hope you might be able to get this one. Can you tell the difference between the two?
No, that's a new one on me. So interesting, in fact, that I don't care if we derail this thread. Please explain it.
I agree. But what did you mean, then, about compromising verses in the Bible?Christianity does NOT make robots, but makes individual human. So, if you are a Christian, you are definitely different from me in the understanding of Christianity even we read the same Bible verse. Just like I have ten students in one class. I do NOT expect all of them have the same understanding to one topic. We are born different (think why), the Christian faith does not mold us into a single character, but trains everyone of us into different faithful beings. We may even have very different understanding to the unique God.
To have many Christian denominations is not a problem, but is a strength.
I agree. But what did you mean, then, about compromising verses in the Bible?
Why does it have to be reasonable?Take an example: Genesis 1 apparently says birds are created before land animals.
Different "interpretations" may suggest different ways to make it reasonable.
I don't think it has anything to do with the true time sequence.One way to "compromise" is to suggest that the Day sequence does not represent the true time sequence.
Why does it have to be reasonable?
I don't think it has anything to do with the true time sequence.
If you want to talk about birds, then the verse says God told the waters to bring them forth, but it doesn't say when they did it.
But I see no need to reconcile the two accounts.
Of course. Many stories use "day" as a time marker.The Genesis 1 uses timing mark called DAY for events of creation. It naturally makes a time sequence.
Not in any science I know about. But I don't think it needs to be, so that's OK.And the revealed sequence is unbelievably true in science.
Huh? What primitive people? Spare me "the Bible tells things that people couldn't have known then" argument. It's nonsense.(Why didn't God create everything all at once? How did "primitive" people know that human is the last, but not the first, creature created?)
Well, one thing is clear: you're definitely a Protestant.Why should this be "reasonable"? Because the purpose of the Bible is to make us understand the Christian God. In contrast, there are some places in the Bible God explicitly points out something we will NOT understand. the Bible is a fundamental religion textbook. That is why the content should be as reasonable as possible.
LOL! Is that one of the doctrines we're not supposed to "compromise?"Religion = God + logic.
Huh? What primitive people? Spare me "the Bible tells things that people couldn't have known then" argument. It's nonsense.
Sigh, you still do not understand. I will tell you one more time, but I don't expect any improvement would happen.
EVERY Christians is right on Bible truth even they have different interpretation.
Different interpretation is not the same as compromise. I hope you might be able to get this one. Can you tell the difference between the two?
To you, maybe. To me they're just silly--and unnecessary. But then, I'm a Traditional Christian rather than a Protestant. I don't believe that Christ is my savior because I believed the Bible first and it says so in the Bible. I don't need to justify my faith by maintaining that the Bible is scientifically prescient.Why is this a nonsense? I think it is a more-than-perfect argument. There are hundreds this type of descriptions in the Bible and they are actually where my faith started to build up. These descriptions are scientifically undeniable.
Why is this a nonsense? I think it is a more-than-perfect argument. There are hundreds this type of descriptions in the Bible and they are actually where my faith started to build up. These descriptions are scientifically undeniable.
One of my favorite description: ... the pillars of the earth ..., very very true. I am very very sorry that you are not able to see it. (if you can not see it now, how could anyone thousands years ago see what they wrote?)
Why is this a nonsense? I think it is a more-than-perfect argument. There are hundreds this type of descriptions in the Bible and they are actually where my faith started to build up. These descriptions are scientifically undeniable.
To you, maybe. To me they're just silly--and unnecessary. But then, I'm a Traditional Christian rather than a Protestant. I don't believe that Christ is my savior because I believed the Bible first and it says so in the Bible. I don't need to justify my faith by maintaining that the Bible is scientifically prescient.
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