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Lavenderain

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aww thanks quietbloke!yeah so true, we can just accept eachother even though we all are different.
 
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I'm not judgmental, i'll leave that to the republicans.

HAHA.............JUST KIDDING. Please read the rest.

Well, you are totally correct. I have been in a pentecostal church my whole life so far. (20 years in fact. Hehe.) But I can tell you there are many judgemental people in our churches especially in the older crowd. The younger people tend to be less judgemental but there are always a few who are very conservative. Like last week there is this certain lady who told my mom it was wrong of her to marry again because her her husband had died. I mean come on my mom was a 30 year old widow. She is 60 now and some oe was telling her that she sinned. and she felt like apologizing to that sister at church. I told her I love that sister in Christ but you don't need to defend your actions. It was a decision you made long ago and it was noone elses buisness to judge you for it. I mean it was one lady out of 500 church members. Many people know this fact about my family and could care less. Alot of people have gone throught different things in there life and have been brought up with the same line of beliefs at church but from our parents own beliefs we tend to see things differently sometimes. Some people become extremely judgemental others really laid back. I on the other hand am not judgemental when it comes to looks or peoples past. If I wanted to bring one of my friends to church and I know some people are going to judge them just for the way they dress or how they wear their hair, i would rather not take them to church at all. They might swear off church forever. And that is what are church not just mine but alot of them have to see. People must change on there own with the Holy Spirit guiding them, not people forcing them to change. I know that is only one of many things the church does to dicriminate people, but you need to see past those people that small amount of people who are "holier than thou;" I do. I mean there are a few girls who would just faint if they saw me put in all my earrings. Seriously, come on, my parents a very conservative Christian women and man who love God with all there hearts taught me that a persons outward appearnace or lifestyle is to be respected. Show love to all and it will be given back to you. My mom was very judgmental of homsexual people. But when she started to teach her class at cosmotolgy school she learned to love them although she didn't agree with there lifestyle. Now a few of her students ask her about Jesus and God and she prays for them and asks us to pray for them at church and at home that they find Jesus. Thats what we need in our churhes. Love your neighbor no matter what color his hair is.
 
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I concur and well said.

Even within the law and temple theology of the Old Testament, God wanted people to properly treat widows, orphans, and aliens. How one treated their neighbor was a correlation of how they treated God in the Old Testament. If you do not know how to love your neighbor, you cannot tell me you know how to love God. Is Jesus your lover today?

God Bless,
Greg Norton
 
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Thanks quietbloke
 
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Hi! I haven't read through this whole thread, just made it through page 1. I very seldom venture into this forum,but thought I'd wander in here tonight.
For the record, I'm Pentecostal. Assemblies of God. Proud of it. But more proud to be a Christian. The title of the denomination God did not give me, man did. I bear the title Christian, for that is who I am. Reading further down, I see you were correct, I, along with others, did not completely read your statement. Sorry about that. But, I'd just like to say this in regard to your first sentence.
"why are Pentecostals so judgmenatal?" lol, they are not. Not any more than the Baptists, and the Catholics, and the Methodists,etc.. I would not even attempt to say one is more judgmental than the other, for that would be judging in itself.
I think its a christian thing in general

sigh, show me where it says Pentecostals believe this.

Sounds more Apostolic than Pentecostal. My hair is quite short, and I wear whatever I like.




Now to read further.
Nice to meet you all.
 
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One quick thing here..

God says in scripture that whatever we judge others for, (what we don't like about them) we are guilty of the same thing ourselves.
 
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Kind of confused by your posts here. I'm a late comer here and trying to walk through all this.
are you saying you agree that women cannot wear pants, or vice versa?
 
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I'm sorry you experienced that.
But let me assure you, all Pentecostals are not like that. I know. I am one.
But, you'll find that in all denominations.
As far as telling your friend to "pick their self up and get on with it", well, I would have said it alot gentler, but that's exactly what I would have said too. But, I would have included alot of the Word of God. Sadly, too many people have too much zeal and not enough heart knowledge to connect what they know of scripture, ..in other words, they don't know how to treat people, don't know how to minister to each other, and are more like a loose canon with the word of God and do more damage than they help.
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I like how you put that.
We also expect alot of ourselves, and I think we hold ourself to a higher accountable level ..ONLY because we take the Word literally and apply it to our life.
I pray that makes sense and does not come off sounding like I am "miss High and Mighty"..Because I am not.
 
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Kind of confused by your posts here. I'm a late comer here and trying to walk through all this.
are you saying you agree that women cannot wear pants, or vice versa?
I think I figured it out the further I read.
 
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Oh jeez, I see what you are saying.
I do not intend to drag others, but it is not only pentecostals.
I can not say for you, but i have been around equally jugdemental baptists, luterans, & methodists.
And you know, know that I think about it...I, too, find myself seldomly & secretly judging people. For instance, not having children before marriage, flip/cross-dressing or etc., pagans/wiccans & witch-craft, and homo-sexually.
I don't know if it's a down-low "eye for an eye" thing or what, but I am really praying that I stop that.
 
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Just keep working at it ... I haven't found the Pentecostal church to be any different denomination than any other ... I think there's a misconception that when one enters the door to a church that all becomes changed "in the blink of an eye". The truth is (sorry to those who've heard this before) ... if you're looking for perfect friends, family, and churches ... you're going to be pretty lonely ... the trick is to grow to hold up and praise the Lord so that the glory goes to Him ... not the enemy ... so it is what it is ...
 
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Oh my gosh, you are so true!!!
I try not to be the way i am, but I really haven't thought about it until today.
Because the things I do not like to see people do & say are ALL around me. That and I know I was taught better than that.
Yeah, I really must pray for my judging behavior.
 
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Well Said,

I believe we get hung up on being judgmental because of not knowing the Word of God and not being secure in God.

First, this misconception is that God is a God of judgment in the Old Testament and a God of compassion in the New Testament. This is "canon-within-a-canon" theology. Second, God was a judge in the Old Testament, and Jesus is the judge in the New Testament. God is a God of compassion in the Old Testament. And to really tell you the truth, more verses are about God being compassionate in the Old Testament than in the New Testament. We can therefore say that the saying the Old Testament is the book of God's judments and the New Testament is the book of God's compassion is inadequate. Both compassion and judgment were in both of them, so please thoroughly read your Bibles.

Unfortunately, we often judge because we are insecure, have not started processing the Word, have not really engaged in sanctification either. For example, some Pentecostal churches are very judgmental about girls wearing mini skirts. Churches often say no for the singleness of wearing mini skirts when the truth is the person has not really engaged in a process to be secure in God. The person needs to have internal sanctification and not judge just to protect our insecurities. Often, a lot of what we say is being "judgmental" is people making statements and presuppositions to protect their own turf, super-ego mentality, insecurity, fear, and inadequate experience of sanctification themselves. The call is to be like Christ, process through sanctification, and become transformed. Then, the church will have the more spirit-led place in the community to communicate God's unadulterated judgments without the flesh or personal insecurities getting in the way.

All The Best,

Greg Norton
 
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Well Said,

Please read the post before this one as well.

God Bless,

Greg
 
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dont you think you are being a little "judgemental" Just kidding - I am Pentecostal and I dont think that this characteristic has any denominational boundaries at all. IMHO I think some people dont mean to be its just that somewhere deep in their psyche they think if they keep people looking at you and your faults they wont have time to look at them and their faults. I have friends who always have to make the first negative comment like "what did you do to your hair " that way if I say anything now about theirs it is only in retaliation......its kinda hard to express what I am trying to say but I hope you see where I am going with this.....Anyway let me be the 1st Pentecostal to NOT JUDGE YOU !!! [sign] God Bless you ! [/sign]

ps I was born in Anniston AL (Roll Tide !!)
 
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I don't think it's just a Pentecostal thing at all. I think it's a human nature aspect that makes us judgemental of others. We judge others when they don't fit the "mold" and don't think how awful we make that person feel. I am sure there are Pentecostal women who are comfortable with wearing their long skirts, not cutting their hair and not wearing makeup, etc. These women might feel bad because other people judge them and make fun of them. Just remember that the dangers of judging others goes both ways. The same speck of glass you spot in someone else's eye might be in yours (if not bigger) as well.
 
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