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Greetings,I'm also familiar with churches that are sticklers about whether or not women are wearing trousers, makeup, and jewelry, and if they're cutting/trimming their hair. Usually, that's associated with UPC/Apostolic churches, although I know there are other denominations with churches just like this. Yes, as you say, it would be a turn off. Any church (denomination aside) that would judge another person on such things -- well, it's just petty.
I'm a firm believer that we should all let God work with other people in their lives, and let them have their own convictions.
Sounds like you and I go to the same church!I am really sorry that happened. IT sounds like those particular churches felt like they were an exclusive country club for saints.Gee, what's the point of a church if it's only for people who think they are saints!? However, please, keep in mind that not all Pentecostals are that way. In the church I attend, we've had folks with spiked hair, piercings, drunks, and butts literally hanging out on the alter.(one gal wor an odd pair of tight pants, and when she squated down,on that alter to pray, her butt and gee string stuck out,someone simply covered her butt with a jacket)
But, while we are one the subject of butts, those folks were never told not to come back. In fact the Pentecostals made it a point to make those folks feel welcome and prayed over the visitors in tongues.
Anyway, for instance, if you are going to preach that a woman will go to Hell for wearing pants. Do not lay on your shoulders and watch all the women that wear pants go to Hell. Go up to them and at least do the mission of God of restoring souls to Jesus Christ.Why are you OP-being so judgmental of the Pentecostals? LOL-PS-some people believe the Holy Spirit's convicting work-is merely others being judgmental of them.
i absolutely agree that it is a CHRISTIAN thing not a denominational thing....Pentacostals in general do have a more "confronting" way of doing things...perhaps this is what you're picking up on? But as far as judgement....I converted from Catholicism, and let me tell you, there is JUST as much if more judgement with catholicism as there is with pentacostal churches....the way I was treated was actually quite cruel.
I think its dangerous to single out ONE denomination above another and say "they're the most judgemental" or even "they're MORE judgemental" because even if you have been to a variety of denoms, you've only been to so many CHURCHES in those denoms, and indivdual churches do vary quite considerably in their attitudes, values, and overall treatment of other people. I can only speak for my own CHURCH within my denom..and Im not even going to say what my denom IS because I don't think it matters, but I really do love my church...they're beautiful and very very accepting and loving, and the one thing I love the most is that they lead by example rather than by judgement. Not all churches are like that, I know. I just dont think its wise to lump all pentacostal churches in together, because just the TERM pentacostal covers SUCH a broad range of SUB denominations that you really cant be accurate in your assessment.
This aside, i am sorry that your experiences are that of judgement rather than love. It is unfortunate, sad, and a product of a broken world that we don't always treat eacother the way we should. I hope that your relationship with God goes from strength to strength despite the judgement of others.
i absolutely agree that it is a CHRISTIAN thing not a denominational thing....Pentacostals in general do have a more "confronting" way of doing things...perhaps this is what you're picking up on? But as far as judgement....I converted from Catholicism, and let me tell you, there is JUST as much if more judgement with catholicism as there is with pentacostal churches....the way I was treated was actually quite cruel.
I think its dangerous to single out ONE denomination above another and say "they're the most judgemental" or even "they're MORE judgemental" because even if you have been to a variety of denoms, you've only been to so many CHURCHES in those denoms, and indivdual churches do vary quite considerably in their attitudes, values, and overall treatment of other people. I can only speak for my own CHURCH within my denom..and Im not even going to say what my denom IS because I don't think it matters, but I really do love my church...they're beautiful and very very accepting and loving, and the one thing I love the most is that they lead by example rather than by judgement. Not all churches are like that, I know. I just dont think its wise to lump all pentacostal churches in together, because just the TERM pentacostal covers SUCH a broad range of SUB denominations that you really cant be accurate in your assessment.
This aside, i am sorry that your experiences are that of judgement rather than love. It is unfortunate, sad, and a product of a broken world that we don't always treat eacother the way we should. I hope that your relationship with God goes from strength to strength despite the judgement of others.
I was raised a Catholic and recently joined a Pentecostal/AOG church and for once in my life I really feel connected to God and very welcomed by the church.
More than what I can say for the Catholic Church(es) I belonged to in the past.
I think it's a human thing that we judge, it's in our nature regardless of what religion we follow.
Funny coz it's something I never took note of as a Catholic and now I really think before I speak and I'm aware of being judgemental.
I'm a changed WOMAN
an EXtreme side of pentecostals are the "oneness" sect i didnt even know that kind of legalism and judgmentalism existed today; like modern day puritans/ theres a reason that sect is so smallWhy are pentecostals so judgmental. I was a part of the pentecostal church for a loooong time. I am now more nondenominational...but one thing I noticed growing up in the pentecostal church is that most...not all...of them were very very judgmental.
I know that not all are this way and that you should not focus on one bad apple...but from what I have seen its been more than one bad apple....its very prevelant from what I have seen. Just wondering what your thoughts on this are.
Greetings in Jesus Name,an EXtreme side of pentecostals are the "oneness" sect i didnt even know that kind of legalism and judgmentalism existed today; like modern day puritans/ theres a reason that sect is so small
i had a friend that was apostalic, and after going to one of their meetings i knew something was seriously wrong, i researched it because i had never heard of them and i found nothing good to learn but im not going to touch on thatGreetings in Jesus Name,
Sir, did you read my whole testimony. And, you will be surprised just how many Oneness people their are around the world. The Oneness/Revelation of Jesus Christ blew my socks off and gave me lots of zeal, tenacity, and joy to witness and serve God.
For the judgmentalism, I know that it is unfortunate that how people are approached within my movement needs work. I have acknowledged the change within leadership on human leadership, and my prayer is for other leaders in Oneness ranks to see as well. Also, Pentecostalism should not be the emotional trashcan, identified patient, or object of criticism. It is easy to put all on one denomination rather than challenge the flesh to change and be authentically spiritual.
God Bless and hopes this helps,
Greg Norton
I dont think saying "most" is even a good representation...have you been to "most" pentacostal churches around the world????? Cos unless you have, that whole notion is simply false. Now you could say "most" of the pentacostals YOU'VE MET are judgemental...that would be ok because you're limiting it to the people you have had experience with. But to say in such a blanket way "most pentacostals are judgemental" is simply wrong.It seems like some of ya'll did not bother reading my whole post...because if you did there would be no need for comments like this.
I said I know its not all pentecostals but...I have been in several different type pentecostal churches as well as nonpentecostal...even catholic and by far the ones who were most judgemental were the pentecostals....again...this is NOT ALL PENTECOSTALS...but most.
Maybe you shouldn't stereotype people.Why are pentecostals so judgmental. I was a part of the pentecostal church for a loooong time. I am now more nondenominational...but one thing I noticed growing up in the pentecostal church is that most...not all...of them were very very judgmental.
I know that not all are this way and that you should not focus on one bad apple...but from what I have seen its been more than one bad apple....its very prevelant from what I have seen. Just wondering what your thoughts on this are.
Most people consider Apostolics their "identified patient" or "emotional trashcan" within Christianity. I used to not be Apostolic, and unfortunately, some make lousy opinions based on one Apostolic church that they attend. Yes, some do not have no ethics whatsoever. However, I researched heavily many other denominations, and it appears to me that they short change people. Many people outside the Apostolic movement hate us because we actually have a doctrine that challenges their status quo. I would rather be teased and be made fun of as an Apostolic than to hang out somewhere that only affirms things so that people will not say anything derogatory towards them. It really takes a lot of backbone to be an Apostolic minister. I rejoice that you and others beat up on Apostolics because it only tells me that we still have a message that actually changes and challenges people when many other doctrines failed that I set under before I became an Apostolic. In essence, thank you for the compliment, and I will be praying for you.i had a friend that was apostalic, and after going to one of their meetings i knew something was seriously wrong, i researched it because i had never heard of them and i found nothing good to learn but im not going to touch on that
I have heard doctrine like that and you're right, it is a cult. They are preaching a different gospel (Gal 1:6-8 - not a good practice).
But again, if it isn't speaking in tongues that's required for salvation, it would be getting baptized a certain way or eating the right foods. Anything but being saved by grace through faith in the shed blood of Jesus is false teaching.
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