There is a story that it happened. There is no evidence that it happened.
If all you require for belief is a story, why don't you believe every supernatural claim ever made on paper, and allegedly 'witnessed'?
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Is that supposed to be a problem for me?
I am a Christian and claim Jesus rose bodily from the tomb He was buried in on the Sunday following His crucifixion. This was a supernatural event and there is evidence that it happened. Check out N.T. Wright's work on the subject for starters.
Yeah, but you would continuing believing even if you had no good reasons to think it is and many to think it isn't.I think it is where it makes claims about reality. I have good reasons to think it is and have none to think it isn't.
Have a look at all the threads you started (and abandoned) for starters.You think Craig's arguments are ridiculous. I have known this for quite some time. But you have not made even the first step in showing that they are not good arguments. The only thing therefore that I see ironic is you thinking that irony would be lost on me.
There is a story that it happened. There is no evidence that it happened.
If all you require for belief is a story, why don't you believe every supernatural claim ever made on paper, and allegedly 'witnessed'?
Yeah, but you would continuing believing even if you had no good reasons to think it is and many to think it isn't.
Yes you would. You even admitted as much. Do you want me to find the posts?No I would not.
None of those threads contain instances where Davian successfully demonstrates that Dr. Craig's arguments are not good arguments. None of them. In fact, no one here has shown that any of his arguments are not good arguments. No atheist here has made a good case for atheism either. True, some attempts have been made to appeal to evil as a positive case for atheism, but all such arguments either necessitate one presupposing the existence of the very One whom they are attempting to disprove, or simply redefining evil in such a way that makes the issue trivial.Have a look at all the threads you started (and abandoned) for starters.
Okay, whatever you say Jeremy.None of those threads contain instances where Davian successfully demonstrates that Dr. Craig's arguments are not good arguments. None of them. In fact, no one here has shown that any of his arguments are not good arguments.
Sure, if it is so important to you to try and prove me wrong, I won't try to encourage you to do otherwise.Yes you would. You even admitted as much. Do you want me to find the posts?
You make this too easy, Jeremy.Sure, if it is so important to you to try and prove me wrong, I won't try to encourage you to do otherwise.
To make all of this as easy for you as God allows. To remove every obstacle from the gospel that can be removed according to the will of God. You are my friend. My battle is not with you.To fall below the lowest standards?
Ah Jeremy, if only you knew how you come across.To make all of this as easy for you as God allows. To remove every obstacle from the gospel that can be removed according to the will of God. You are my friend. My battle is not with you.
I get what he is saying.See 1:22.
If I come across to you the way Christians came across to me before Christ came into my heart then in general, you find me to be condescending, stuck up, obnoxious, annoying, weak, and a soft simpleton.Ah Jeremy, if only you knew how you come across.
Then you are not using the term as atheists use it.When I use the term atheism, I use it to signify the worldview that God does not exist,
Then they should find Christianity very appealing, particularly your version of it.From my experience, atheists aren't so concerned with the fact that some call themselves Christians, but that some, who by their actions, hinder them from doing whatever they want to do. If Christians never acted on their beliefs and convictions, I doubt atheists would be concerned about what they called themselves. It's when atheists feel wronged or persecuted, that they say things like, "who are you to try and stop me from living how I want to?" The underlying assumption in the rhetorical question is that there is in fact, no one who can rightfully stop them from doing whatever they want. There is no objective moral law to which they are accountable.
You live as though Islam is not true, as if Xenu never lived, as if there were no FSM, etc.Practically therefore, the distinction you draw is really one without a difference. For you live as if God does not exist, you act as though God does not exist. All the while saying with your mouth, "I am merely not convinced, so don't read anymore into it than that."
Oh, I don't see you as I see other Christians, so don't worry... Your reputation doesn't generalise. You're not that important.If I come across to you the way Christians came across to me before Christ came into my heart then in general, you find me to be condescending, stuck up, obnoxious, annoying, weak, and a soft simpleton.
Maybe you are more charitable than I was. I hated Christians vigorously and passionately and on rare occasions I found myself wondering why.
You may see me more as an odd curiosity than anything else. Or maybe you pity me.
Who knows?
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