Which creator God is real?

shinbits said:

Wow. I didn't someone could be this wrong.

Didn't I say over and over that popularity alone doesn't prove anything? The slowness at which some people process things is amazing.

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Then what are you saying?

You're saying that the one true creator is the one whose religion is the most popular. I'm pretty sure that's exactly the same as saying that the most popular religion is the correct one.

You just refered to "non-religious" people as "religious".

wow.

I'm fairly sure there's a diagnosis for your inability to grasp what you've done.

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You'll notice the parenthesis.

There's a lot of ad-homs hailing from certain posters in this thread at the moment. I've personally been warned for less in the past. I will report the posts if it continues.

Alunyel said:

Then what are you saying?

You're saying that the one true creator is the one whose religion is the most popular. I'm pretty sure that's exactly the same as saying that the most popular religion is the correct one.

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No. I'm saying the lopsided number of Christians compared to other religious people is one evidence of what the true religion is.

You'll notice the parenthesis.

It was a reference to the site you posted, titled "Major Religions of the WorldRanked by Number of Adherents.", in which "Secular/Nonreligious/Agnostic/Atheist" was included.​

Congratulations, you can successfully answer a post, and miss the point of that post completely.​

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You mean quotation marks? yeah, people don't normally put the exact word they "don't mean" in them, when in a discussion.

You're still wrong in saying that one third of people are atheists.

shinbits said:

No. I'm saying the lopsided number of Christians compared to other religious people is one evidence of what the true religion is.

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And the rest of us (well, except AV) are saying that that's nonesense, and a very common logical fallacy.

tansy said:

...and if you ask why He doesnt and hasnt got everyone immediately into full knowledge of Him and His ways, I can't answer that, because I don't really know, though I'm sure that some people have some thoughts on that..

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In Gnostic thought, the Original Sin entailed losing the knowledge of the universe by a process called 'forgetting'.

They taught that the entire knowledge of the universe --- called 'full knowledge', or 'epignosis' --- is locked up in the brain, and that God cursed Adam and Eve by causing them to 'forget' everything and obtain a state of 'innocence'.

(QV the word 'educate' --- it means to 'bring out [knowledge]' --- not 'put [knowledge] in'.)

Thus, through various techniques like meditation, chanting, and whatnot, man would be able to reacquire this knowledge.

To combat this heresy, Paul wrote the book of Colossians, in which he states that 'knowledge' is found only in Jesus Christ, and one should only seek 'full knowledge' in regards to knowing His will for our lives.

Colossians 1:9-10 said:

9 For this cause we also, since the day we heard it, do not cease to pray for you, and to desire that ye might be filled with the knowledge of his will in all wisdom and spiritual understanding;
10 That ye might walk worthy of the Lord unto all pleasing, being fruitful in every good work, and increasing in the knowledge of God.

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Scientists today, in their quest for 'full knowledge', will never attain it; especially by denying God's existence.

They can only go so far with their short-sighted tools.

shinbits said:

No. I'm saying the lopsided number of Christians compared to other religious people is one evidence of what the true religion is.

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No it doesn't, anymore than the amount of people who believe Britney Spears produces good music makes her music any good. What's true is true, what's wrong is wrong, however many people believe the wrong is true doesn't make it so, even if there are other people believing other wrong things. No religion is any more correct than any other. More people believing it than any other religion gives it no validity whatsoever.

You mean quotation marks? yeah, people don't normally put the exact word they "don't mean" in them, when in a discussion.

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Ok, then, one interesting thing to note is the non-religious being the third most popular "religion", with 1.1 billion, half of all followers of Christianity.

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I was pointing out what the website says. The website says that non-religion is one of the world's largest religions. Why else would I put "religion" in parenthesis?

You're still wrong in saying that one third of people are atheists.

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I didn't say that. I said 1.1 billion were non-religious, which if 2.1 billion are Christian and they constitute about 1/3 of the population, means that the non-religious constitutes about 1/6. Welcome to fractions for beginners.

Seriously, stop trying to pick apart the wording of the post and try to comprehend the point I was actually trying to make.

shinbits said:

No. I'm saying the lopsided number of Christians compared to other religious people is one evidence of what the true religion is.

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so if the atheist number rises above Christianity, does that mean god never existed, or that god died?

btw your logic is so horribly flawed.

shinbits said:

Because today is what we have. We don't have tommorrow, and we don't have statistics from the past. So logically, only today can be the benchmark. But the method of determining the creator, is as you're asking, the same, as it would've been in the past, if we started taking statistics then, as it will be in the future. So by your own standard, it's a system that should be continued.

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Under that logic, since no religion has a majority stake, no single known God was the creator. That must mean that either several gods created the universe together and that those gods form a majority stake of belief, or that none of these gods were invovled. Your measuring stick requires polytheism.

Oh, and I'm pretty sure he's a poe.