Where are the single Godly Men?

Jacque said:

If you consider the fact that Jesus said that if you get divorced for any reason besides lewd conduct and then remarry that you are committing adultery then I think it's fair to say that God wants us to marry only once, not three times.

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Well then, I guess I should be happy that my divorce was due to my husband leaving me for another woman.

PastorJer said:

AMEN

They are out there - often involved in ministry - in caring for others.

I would say the most important thing in meeting and winning the heart of a godly man is to continue becoming a woman after God's heart... I know that for myself there is nothing that I look for more in gals than a heart that is following hard after God...

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Yup! I'd have to agree on that one.

Jacque said:

If you consider the fact that Jesus said that if you get divorced for any reason besides lewd conduct and then remarry that you are committing adultery then I think it's fair to say that God wants us to marry only once, not three times.

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Point of clarification: "lewd conduct" = infidelity. So for instance, if my wife and I take vows to remain married but then we separate or divorce, according to our vows, we should both keep the marriage bed sacred and not become involved with another person. However, if my wife begins a relationship with another person, then I believe I am free to move on and remarry. We are not beholden to the other person if they are not going to keep the marriage bed sacred. Such is not verified simply by having a marriage license or certificate. So with that scripture reference in mind, is God deferring authority to a legal document or proceeding? I think not. If my wife and I separate or divorce, then until she or I defile the marriage bed then we must not engage in infidelity. So if, for instance, my ex-wife is now remarried, then I am no longer beholden to her.

NewGuy101 said:

The only thing we can do is pray and wait for God to bring that special person to us.

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I agree that every serious relationship must be blessed by God and both people should have a clear message from God that their union is what He wants. We must learn to listen to God when we are praying and hear what He wants for us. With that said, however, I think if we never get out of the house and meet new people that this might make things difficult. There are references in the Bible where someone sought out a mate. These were also blessed by God. So I see nothing wrong with meeting new people so see what God is willing to bless us with.

mrkguy75 said:

The single Godly men are often sitting around wondering where the single Godly women are.

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Amen!

King....why do you have a medical disclaimer in your siggy?

Dude, you guys n gals rock. This thread truly made my night!

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In His love,
Tink

King Element said:

Point of clarification: "lewd conduct" = infidelity. So for instance, if my wife and I take vows to remain married but then we separate or divorce, according to our vows, we should both keep the marriage bed sacred and not become involved with another person. However, if my wife begins a relationship with another person, then I believe I am free to move on and remarry. We are not beholden to the other person if they are not going to keep the marriage bed sacred. Such is not verified simply by having a marriage license or certificate. So with that scripture reference in mind, is God deferring authority to a legal document or proceeding? I think not. If my wife and I separate or divorce, then until she or I defile the marriage bed then we must not engage in infidelity. So if, for instance, my ex-wife is now remarried, then I am no longer beholden to her.

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You're totally missing the point. Jesus said that if you divorce for any reason besides lewd conduct(which you call infidelity) then you may not remarry without committing adultery. So in your example the divorce came first, then the infidelity, so you would not be acting within the set parameters, so if you remarried it would be adultery. If she had broken fidelity and then you divorced it would have been legitimate.

Jacque said:

You're totally missing the point. Jesus said that if you divorce for any reason besides lewd conduct(which you call infidelity) then you may not remarry without committing adultery. So in your example the divorce came first, then the infidelity, so you would not be acting within the set parameters, so if you remarried it would be adultery. If she had broken fidelity and then you divorced it would have been legitimate.

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Jacque I think King was saying was that if his wife cheated on him regardless of whether they are married, separated or divorced that she has comitted infidelity and the divorce would be legit acording to The Bible. I refuse to accept that a man or woman must live the rest of their life alone just because they got married to some moron who didn't mean their vows. I don't think The Bible means you only have one marriage and if you marry the wrong person tough luck ever having a family of your own. Somebody is not faithful and the deal is off is the way I look at it.

Here is what Our Lord has to say on the matter on divorce and remarriage (bold emphasis mine):

Matthew 5:31-32 (NIV)

31"It has been said, 'Anyone who divorces his wife must give her a certificate of divorce.'[a] 32But I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife, except for marital unfaithfulness, causes her to become an adulteress, and anyone who marries the divorced woman commits adultery."


Jesus is clear on the matter, and in your case, you cannot remarry. Seeing that is the case then I believe that you should focus your energy into raising your daughter.

Diane

Querry. If a brother must marry his brother's widow, and said widow had been on faithful to her husband, does the brother, acting merely out of respect for the Law in marrying his brother's widow commit adultery?

And if so, then how does one comply with the law?

Diane_Windsor said:

Here is what Our Lord has to say on the matter on divorce and remarriage (bold emphasis mine):

Matthew 5:31-32 (NIV)

31"It has been said, 'Anyone who divorces his wife must give her a certificate of divorce.'[a] 32But I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife, except for marital unfaithfulness, causes her to become an adulteress, and anyone who marries the divorced woman commits adultery."


Jesus is clear on the matter, and in your case, you cannot remarry. Seeing that is the case then I believe that you should focus your energy into raising your daughter.

Diane

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There are many levels and definitions of "unfaithfulness" and I think that they all apply. For instance, where it is written, "the man shall leave his mother and father...cleave to his wife...and the two shall become one flesh," if a wife or husband is not willing in their heart to do this, then there is a translation problem with how we interpret the Bible if we don't agree. There have been many discussions of whether or not a formerly married person should or should not remarry. It is hard to remember sometimes (myself included) that the word of God is not superior to our relationship with Him. Therefore I think it is pertinent for all of us no matter what our marital status to "seek first the kingdom of God" and see what God has to say about this. God does not only communicate with the Bible and literal word-for-word translations as they relate to this, as well as other issues, can cause problems for Christians. Division is the key for the devil and his demons to create discord among Christians. We must be on guard against division and rely first and foremost on how God answers our prayers for greater understanding.

Remember that God knows our every need and will provide that which we ask for, if we ask it for the right reasons. We must therefore seek God first, ask for His direction in our life and acknowledge His answers. I think God will bring the right person to you if it is within His will...I think God knows our tendencies and that some people will be brought closer to God with the right person. My personal answers to this question have indicated that I need to be patient and that all things will happen according to His will. Will I ever remarry? Maybe not. But that's for Him to decide.

The need to be with someone, when it was the focus of my life, made me feel miserable because I kept asking God for signs if this woman or that woman was right for me. Now that I have stopped doing that and just enjoy meeting new people, I think God has given me much more happiness.

So I don't think that there's any easy answer out there, except to say that God absolutely must bless your relationship before you marry. Trust God, pray and listen to His answers, and be patient.

SorensScapegoat said:

Querry. If a brother must marry his brother's widow, and said widow had been on faithful to her husband, does the brother, acting merely out of respect for the Law in marrying his brother's widow commit adultery?

And if so, then how does one comply with the law?

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Correct me if I'm wrong (and more often than not I am ) but isn't the law of a brother marrying his brother's widow an old testemant law? I thought that when Jesus arrived, He stated to follow His law, and not the old law.

There are plenty of Godly men out there. They just might consider being married to a divorced woman as being adulterous. I don't mean that as an attack of any sort, just my perspective of Biblical truth. God bless, I'll pray for you.

Well, whatever can be said about the exact nature of divorce what we can say is that it's not good. And, my point is this: marriage is supposed to be something that you have one shot at. This isn't something like trying to get up at 7:30 instead of hitting the snooze button when your alarm goes off and getting up at 7:40 so you can have ten minutes of quiet time before you go to work. That is, this isn't something where the consquences of failure are trivial and you get to try over and over indefinitely until you get it right(despite what people seem to think in this modern America). If you've made a sacred life vow of "Till death do we part" with two people and failed both times then I suggest calling it quits. That's my point. Take it for what it's worth. Amen.

Jacque, sometimes the hard things need to be said. I agree with you.

Also, in this case there is a child involved. This makes me wary, because I know several mothers who remarried and their daughter ended up being molested by the new husband. I've seen children messed up in countless ways because of remarriage.

The best thing they should do before getting married, even go seeing a counselor even BEFORE marriage because that way the marriage counselor will give them an idea on what to expect before marriage and continue counseling during marriage.