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I don't find any difficulty in determining what is children's entertainment and what is some ulterior conspiracy to...I dunno...groom children. I am absolutely certain that you'd have no difficulty either. But it serves a purpose to blur those lines.That parody line is increasingly difficult to discern, including for those doing it
With what they do privately with their bodies to change them, is their business.You are now saying that there's no problem. As you say, why should you care? It doesn't affect you at all.
We also are called to called to evangelize our own Children and household. If we cannot do that how can we do so with others.Christians are commanded to spread the "Good News" in the secular world. If His fruits are quenched by hate then His " good news" turns into bad and nothing can be harvested for His Kingdom. We are to put on the " full armor of God" but His armor is wrapped in love, His Holy Spirit. Christians ( not all) need to go back to their first love then they will be equipped with His Gospel and begin to heal the gap of division with truth and righteousness.
Blessings.
I've read the thread. All he is being asked to do is read what the company is doing and tick a box saying that he understands what they are doing. He most definitely is not being asked to agree with it. He is, for whatever reason, refusing to do that. He obviously has read the document and he obviously does understand it. Can you imagine the scenario?Go over to the Orthodox forum and peddle this stuff to the person ready to sacrifice his job right now! It is happening to him personally.
Another judgment about his religious convictions. He/she can't sign it in his heart and mind because of his/her faith. He is losing his job over this. Confirming understanding for what? To apply it....You don't go to safety training or other training at work so you can ignore the application of the information? No it has a purpose.I've read the thread. All he is being asked to do is read what the company is doing and tick a box saying that he understands what they are doing. He most definitely is not being asked to agree with it. He is, for whatever reason, refusing to do that. He obviously has read the document and he obviously does understand it. Can you imagine the scenario?
'I am complaining about the fact that I have to agree that I have read and understood the document from HR'
You are complaining about the document? So...you have obviously read it'.
'Obviously'.
'And you obviously understood what it was about.'
'Obviously. How could I complain about it if I didn't'.
'But you say that you refuse to acknowledge that you've read it and understood it'.
'Yes'.
'But you just did.'
'Well, I'm not ticking the box which says that'.
And that last line is actually what he was complaining about. Go figure.
This is quite the most confusing of conversations. You complain about how your beliefs are being compromised, yet you have no personal examples. Your hypotherticals don't address your complaint in any way. Then you complain about using pronouns and say that you can't tell if anyone has transitioned, so you'd use whatever pronouns suited the person. And then say that what they do has nothing to do with you in any case.With what they do privately with their bodies to change them, is their business.
The last I read a few days ago he had written to his superiors expressing concern. At no time has his job been in danger. At no time has he been told he must attend the training. At no time has he been told he must agree to what the training expresses. You are off on another Hypothetical Trail suggesting what might happen or could happen yet none of it has.Another judgment about his religious convictions. He/she can't sign it in his heart and mind because of his/her faith. He is losing his job over this. Confirming understanding for what? To apply it....You don't go to safety training or other training at work so you can ignore the application of the information? No it has a purpose.
Toodles!This is quite the most confusing of conversations. You complain about how your beliefs are being compromised, yet you have no personal examples. Your hypotherticals don't address your complaint in any way. Then you complain about using pronouns and say that you can't tell if anyone has transitioned, so you'd use whatever pronouns suited the person. And then say that what they do has nothing to do with you in any case.
I gotta ask, why am I wasting my time with this?
The last I read a few days ago he had written to his superiors expressing concern. At no time has his job been in danger. At no time has he been told he must attend the training. At no time has he been told he must agree to what the training expresses. You are off on another Hypothetical Trail suggesting what might happen or could happen yet none of it has.
IF you want to follow that thread and IF there comes a time when he must compromise his faith then hey, get back to us and tell us all about it. I'm getting pretty tired of all your what if's, but's, maybe's and could be's.
Honestly, I think he is being unreasonable. Acknowledging having received training doesn't mean you agree with every underlying ideological premise or metaphysical assumption, it means you've undertaken the training and understand what behaviour is expected of you in the workplace. And if he intends to ignore those expectations, then it's not the right job for him.These are your opinions........ Just today, go over to the Orthodox forum and read. an Orthodox in New York has just been suspended for two days over signing a training document for his employer concerning Gender training. Go look at it then tell me his religious freedom is not being threatened. As for being more sensative? How sensative are you to tell me what I should be convicted of? And who spoke to me about not having it happen to me personally? Yet you could do the same, along with certain others in here. So I called you on it. Go over to the Orthodox forum and peddle this stuff to the person ready to sacrifice his job right now! It is happening to him personally.
I think here you are aligning two different issues regarding truth. One is peoples experience of the Church in its abuses and the other is the Truth of God which the Church is suppose to represent. The experience of abuse is truth and real to the person but Gods Truth sits as something that is outside the person and represents a greater reality that humans have been wrestling with for millenia.But what makes your truth truthier than anyone else's truth? I am a believer and yet I can sympathize with others who have rejected "Churchism's religion" because of any number of abuses.
A good example of what you are talking about and represents how ideological beliefs and not reality have taken over society is the word and meaning of 'Women'. People have lost their job, tenure, reputation, been financially ruined aned denied freeedom of speech from simply referring to the long held Truth of God, biology and reality. Like Marriage and many other things including just about the entire Western History has been redefined according to the New basis for truth, morality and reality which is Woke religion.Bakers, have been sued etc, for not making same sex wedding cakes. We have seen peoples jobs threatened over gender pronouns, kids in school etc. Similar things......
Well, I can pray it doesn;'t get widespread and for not for long. But If the Lord allows it, what to do? There will be lot's of suffering. We are gonna be put to the test, or the lord will return. We need to help each other all we can. Some or many may become in dire staights.A good example of what you are talking about and represents how ideological beliefs and not reality have taken over society is the word and meaning of 'Women'. People have lost their job, tenure, reputation, been financially ruined aned denied freeedom of speech from simply referring to the long held Truth of God, biology and reality. Like Marriage and many other things including just about the entire Western History has been redefined according to the New basis for truth, morality and reality which is Woke religion.
Not sure what you mean here. I use the pronouns that people tell me apply to them, and it doesn't cause me suffering, and it doesn't cause them suffering.Well, I can pray it doesn;'t get widespread and for not for long. But If the Lord allows it, what to do? There will be lot's of suffering. We are gonna be put to the test, or the lord will return. We need to help each other all we can. Some or many may become in dire staights.
You will be fine.Not sure what you mean here. I use the pronouns that people tell me apply to them, and it doesn't cause me suffering, and it doesn't cause them suffering.
I hope you are including people in same-sex marriages here. Because that has been pretty much my point all along. And by help I mean being respectfully supportive and not denigrating their relationship because it does not conform to your ideas.We need to help each other all we can.
I was speaking to financial hardship of people loseing jobs and other things over this, as was spoken of to another poster. You all will not be affected.I hope you are including people in same-sex marriages here. Because that has been pretty much my point all along. And by help I mean being respectfully supportive and not denigrating their relationship because it does not conform to your ideas.
God's truth must be discerned. Not everyone is either male or female. Conditions in which chromosomal sex is inconsistent with phenotypic sex, or in which the phenotype is not classifiable as either male or female, occur in 0.018% of the population. DSD (Intersex)If there is a God then His Truth applies in all domains of life, spiritually, physically and psychologically. So we can know that Gods Truth is real so to speak because we see it in everyday life. For example Gods Truth that he created male and female and by extention Marriage and the family. These are practical examples of Gods Truth in the real world.
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