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its a conspiracy!!! the man is keeping us down man!!! to say evolution is the majority opinion among scientists is an understatement. Among scientists in a relevant field it's 99.9% which is as close to unanimous as you can reasonably get about any idea.The only thing an evolutionist can be certain of is that he can never be certain of anything.
For now, evolutionists are sitting pretty. They hold the reigns of power in the academy, they control federal research funds, and they have unlimited access to the media. But, like English colonialists trying to keep a colony in check, they are in a distinct minority. A feature of colonialism is that colonists are always vastly outnumbered by the people they are controlling and that maintaining control depends on keeping the requisite power structures in place. The reason intelligent design has become such a threat is that it is giving the majority of Americans, who dont buy the atheistic picture of evolution peddled in all the textbooks, the tools with which to effectively challenge the evolutionists power structures.
Not really, it's the wrongful application of the added 14th Amendment that causes the Bill of Rights to be wrongfully applied by the Federal Government to the states. Originally, ONLY the Bill of Rights applied to controlling the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT's power, and not bind local or state laws or regulations. It could be argured though, that government in a free society has no right to manipulate or control education, which should be in the control of families, businesses, churches, and communities. Under such conditions, the traditions of such communities, churches, firms, and families would hold sway. The Federal & State government would be free to be indifferent; however, with NO power to create indifferent communities.I'm not either, the first amendment is very clear on such issues.
supernaturalism is unscientific. that doesnt mean it doesnt exist, it just cant be investigated using science. supernaturalism has never been demonstrated scientifically.
Quite logical as well.How convenient.
Great, so that way if a group of Muslims decide they like the community you already live in they can move there, form a majority and change the laws so that you are not allowed to have your religion within the village boundaries. They'll teach Muslim creation in the schools to your children. Place Ramadan celebrations and such on the city calendars. Christmas is OUT. You'll either have to move or just put up with it as that's the world you want to live in.Not really, <snip>communities.
Well spoken as usual. you are a handful. I love it. The truth will set some of us free.Good Job.
Thank you. It's so nice to see those "after His kind" on this forum.
Not that you will read it (I hope you do) but I thought this was a site that might answer some of your questions.
http://www.icr.org/home/resources/resources_tracts_caic/#iv
The only thing an evolutionist can be certain of is that he can never be certain of anything.
For now, evolutionists are sitting pretty. They hold the reigns of power in the academy, they control federal research funds, and they have unlimited access to the media...Consipract rubbish snipped
I know you won't believe this now,
but one day it will break your heart when you realise how you have been duped.
Wow. Who would have thought you would say something I entirely agree with. Of course, you have no problem with
a) saying evolutionist cannot be certain about anything
and
b) evolution is faith
Despite the fact these are mutually exclusive ideas
I have to be honest, it must totally Suxx0rs to be you. I mean lets see:
1) Your president is a fundie
2) You are waging a religious war against ISlam
And despite this confluence of the best possible position for your side
1) you haven't overturned Roe V Wade
2) creationism has been laughed out of school
I mean this is as good as its ever going to get for your side, and you cannot even place third.
If my position was that hopeless, I'd be tempted to have an invisble imaginary friend too.
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But what you don't understand Blayz, is we don't think like you. None of these things matter that much to us. We are not out to win anything it's already been won for us. We are winners regardless of what happens here. We win and therefore we rejoice!
Wow. Who would have thought you would say something I entirely agree with. Of course, you have no problem with
a) saying evolutionist cannot be certain about anything
and
b) evolution is faith
I don't see it that way.Despite the fact these are mutually exclusive ideas
Don't worry about it babe. I live in one the greatest country on earth. Not only with freedom of religion but we haveI have to be honest, it must totally Suxx0rs to be you. I mean lets see:
Thank the Lord. I can only imagine what Mrs. what your defenition of is ....is?, and Mr false global warming would get or put us.1) Your president is a fundie
Are you serious?2) You are waging a religious war against ISlam
http://www.unfairchoice.info/intro.htm1) you haven't overturned Roe V Wade
the fool has said in his heart There is no God!2) creationism has been laughed out of school
Blayz please pick up on PSALMS chapter 14. OKIf my position was that hopeless, I'd be tempted to have an invisble imaginary friend too.
Could you expand on this please? How can you have faith in something and at the same time think that something is completely uncertain? Could you aplly a non-science example?
Don't worry about it babe.
ummm....isn't homosexuality a sin?
No, yo live in the USA, not AustraliaI live in the greatest country on earth
Sorry, not up enough on yank politics to have any idea to whom you are referring.Thank the Lord. I can only imagine what Mrs. what your defenition of is ....is?, and Mr false global warming would get or put us.
No I don't. I explicitly state that the USA has picked on countries since it gave up isolationism after WWII.Are you serious?
Who is waging a war?
You act as if the Greatest Country in the current word is picking on others. Please get a grip.
Oh your god! You are right. Roe v Wade has been overturned by that website. How could I have missed it!
the fool has said in his heart “There is no God!”utterly irrelevant to the fact that creationism got laughed out of your school system. Needless to say, here in the Greatest Country on the Earth, it was never an issue to begin with.and set about to prove it, proving nothing but
his foolishness
how can one presume to prove no God
using the very evidence of His reality and care
against Him
His glory pervades all that could ever be
and how should I respond other than I would
they attempt to prove the sky not blue
Nah, I prefer Hansel and Gretel if I am going to read a fairy tale. Much more coherent and believable.Blayz please pick up on PSALMS chapter 14. OK
If the shoe fits......The bible says that atheists are fools.
Actually, if you put it in that frame of wording, I take all responsibility for inferring that.
This is what you guys thrive on.If there was an atheist holy text that said Christians were fools would it automatically be right?
I would hardly doubt there is some mockery of fundies book for you.
Because it's the word of God and John 1:1Then why the bible?
Fools come in all shapes, sizes and flavors. There are fools for science and fools for religion.
If you would like to discuss this elsewhere I would be more than happy. Isn't there a political thread?Also, yes, America is picking on other countries. What's happening in Iraq right now?
[/QUOTE]Nah, I prefer Hansel and Gretel if I am going to read a fairy tale. Much more coherent and believable.
Baggins you are always so late to the party.I think we are seeing a pattern on this thread. Creationists say:
" I became a creationist when I was saved at age........."
So it has nothing to do with being convinced by evidence, how could it!, it is all about having a mindset that they are so attached to that they can no longer admit reality.
I had always assumed this to be the case, but it is still nice to have the creationists admit it on this thread.
Really renders this whole board pointless though because it is obvious that most of them would not admit the evidence for evolution even is the great JC himself came down on a cloud and gave them a lecture on it.
Baggins you are always so late to the party.
Why is that?
Today, our duty is to destroy the myth of evolution, considered as a simple, understood, and explained phenomenon which keeps rapidly unfolding before us. Biologists must be encouraged to think about the weaknesses of the interpretations and extrapolations that theoreticians put forward or lay down as established truths. The deceit is sometimes unconscious, but not always, since some people, owing to their sectarianism, purposely overlook reality and refuse to acknowledge the inadequacies and the falsity of their beliefs. ~ Pierre GrasseEasier to let people hoist themselves by their own petards than do it for them most of the time.
What's the point of explaining that creationist hold their beliefs because of their religion and not because of the evidence, in fact despite of the evidence, when they will say it for you.
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