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Quid est Veritas? said:

"Through their influence, his orthodoxy, especially on the doctrine of the Holy Trinity, was impeached, and he was summoned to appear before a council at Soissons, in 1121, presided over by the papal legate, Kuno, Bishop of Praneste. While it is not easy to determine exactly what took place at the Council, it is clear that there was no formal condemnation of Abelard's doctrines, but that he was nevertheless condemned to recite the Athanasian Creed, and to burn his book on the Trinity"

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Sure looks like to me it was his views on the Trinity that was in question.

Therefore no specific view of the trinity was condemned, Nominalist or otherwise.

The Venerable Peter of Cluny now took up his case, obtained from Rome a mitigation of the sentence, reconciled him with St. Bernard, and gave him honourable and friendly hospitality at Cluny.

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His dispute with ST. Bernard was more over Abelard's methodology. Peter the Venerable tried to reconcile the two. When St. Bernard refused to bend, Peter the Venerable wrote the following:
"You perform all the difficult religious duties, you fast; you watch; you suffer; but you will not endure the easy ones--you do not love."

Love that quote.

smaneck said:

Sure looks like to me it was his views on the Trinity that was in question.

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This is what is his enemies tried to use to bring him down, but no formal heresy was ever found therein. The enemies he made while studying under Anselm of Laon would have used anything they could to bring him down. But ultimately they failed, his Trinitarian views were never condemned, they only managed to condemn his book on procedural grounds as I said earlier. But again, not really important to the previous discussion on Moral Influence at all, as many other impeccable Trinitarians also held this view and when Peter Abelard wrote on the Atonement, he didn't explain his views on the trinity before hand nor needed to, but assumed this was implicitly accepted by the reader, as it would need to be for it to philosophically hold together.

smaneck said:

His dispute with ST. Bernard was more over Abelard's methodology. Peter the Venerable tried to reconcile the two. When St. Bernard refused to bend, Peter the Venerable wrote the following:
"You perform all the difficult religious duties, you fast; you watch; you suffer; but you will not endure the easy ones--you do not love."

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Yes, that is a good quote.