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So if science shows alternate dimensions do exist, and that they are in fact the spiritual realms of the bible, are you telling me that it still doesn't matter because it was science instead of religion that made the discovery? Is that really what you're saying?
But the point I was trying to make is that alternate dimensions and the spiritual realm could in fact be the same. Who cares if religion can't or won't? Doesn't the fact that science does it lead one into what you would call a validation of a religious idea?
Who cares if other dimensions "may" exist? Seems like religion causes many people and I was once all about it too, to get lost in potential "other worlds". Cheapens this world.
I'd say it would put this world in its proper place concerning its value. How much is a temporal earth in a sinful universe worth compared to being in the presence of our creator for all eternity?
Considering that value relates to limits of time and amount, just as if diamonds became abundant they would decrease in value, a life that goes on forever would lose meaning in a sea of infinity. A life that is limited makes you appreciate the little time that you have here and make the most of it.I'd say it would put this world in its proper place concerning its value. How much is a temporal earth in a sinful universe worth compared to being in the presence of our creator for all eternity?
I'd say it would put this world in its proper place concerning its value. How much is a temporal earth in a sinful universe worth compared to being in the presence of our creator for all eternity?
Considering that value relates to limits of time and amount, just as if diamonds became abundant they would decrease in value, a life that goes on forever would lose meaning in a sea of infinity. A life that is limited makes you appreciate the little time that you have here and make the most of it.
Then I guess the life of a mayfly is worth much, much more than a human life.
By what tortured logical process did you reach this conclusion?
Considering that value relates to limits of time and amount, just as if diamonds became abundant they would decrease in value, a life that goes on forever would lose meaning in a sea of infinity. A life that is limited makes you appreciate the little time that you have here and make the most of it.
From this:
The life of a mayfly is only about 1 day at most. By the logic of the poolerboy, the life of a human, being thousands of times longer, must be worth thousands of times less.
That's not at all what poolerboy said, but you already know that.
I quoted his entire post from post #447. Here it is again:
Originally Posted by poolerboy0077
Exactly. No where in that text did he say that any one life was worth more than any other in the way that you are implying. You should refrain from strawmen.
a life that goes on forever would lose meaning in a sea of infinity. A life that is limited makes you appreciate the little time that you have here and make the most of it.
I think I read it very clearly.
If you have any argument to make, now is the time.
Value, for it to make any sense at all, is dependent upon evaluative minds. I didn't explicate this since I thought it was something self-evidence. Apparently not!I quoted his entire post from post #447. Here it is again:
Originally Posted by poolerboy0077
Considering that value relates to limits of time and amount, just as if diamonds became abundant they would decrease in value, a life that goes on forever would lose meaning in a sea of infinity. A life that is limited makes you appreciate the little time that you have here and make the most of it.If he said more than that, my computer screen isn't showing it.
You can always claim to know something, but whether or not that claim is justified is a different story.
So the nature of what's considered to be "spiritual" can't be based in science? I would say it's a metaphysical question.
Scientists talk about the possibility of multiple dimensions. Imagine that! States of existence beyond what we can currently see, hear, or touch. I guess as long as it's called "science", it's valid. But if you use different terminology, such as spiritual realm rather than alternate dimensions, then it suddenly has to relegated to religion, something to be ignored by thinking people.
Sinful universe???
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