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One more thing.... the anti-Spanish-language sentiments in the USA are mostly a product of racism. Just sayin.
I've studied a foreign language. I disagree. Many people do. Again, you are taking your perception of something, and trying to call it fact instead of perception.
Time and time again, scholarly research shows that immersion doesn't work as well as bilingual teaching. The reason immersion "works" at all is because it's the cheapest way to do it, and those who can't get it just drop out. It requires basically no effort and practically no training to teach in an immersion setting, and people can just sink or swim. They sink more often than not, but hey that's the American way, right?
A lot depends on one's preferred learning style. Some learn better through immersion, and others learn better in a traditional bilingual classroom setting. With either of these approaches, there are going to be individuals who "can't get it" and drop out.
I understand the price is high, but I don't know if I agree with the bolded part. I think almost all immigrants want to be legal and want to produce and contribute to our country. With all the laws and regulations in place, it's near impossible to do that. In effect, we are making it so they have to come here illegally to be here, and then we complain that they are eating up our taxes because they are here illegally.
I am seeing in several responses people conflating being monolingual with purposefully not learning languages other than one's native language. Kind of a "monoligual = provincialism" attitude.
The question was not what is wrong with provincialism, what is wrong with people's attitudes about immigration, etc. The question was: what is wrong with being monoligual? Not much different from, say, "What is wrong with being 5 feet, 6 inches tall?".
We all know about the supposed practical utility of being multi-lingual. Not a day goes by without something in some form of media with some form of the message multi-lingual = limited economic and political opportunities. It is the thinking that says that a multi-lingual person is somehow intrinsically superior that I do not get.
It sounds to me like some people simply value languages and judge everybody else accordingly. Not much different from a person who loves astronomy thinking that anybody who does not study astronomy is "limited", if such a person exists.
I think that there is a difference between studying a language and monolingual vs. multi-lingual. I could study all kinds of languages but never consider myself to be anything other than monolingual.
I took an introductory college linguistics class and was fascinated by the concepts of the science of linguistics. But languages do not interest me much. It is one thing to study a language. It is another thing to use a language. It is still another thing to have the values system that says that the many human languages past and present must be appreciated and preserved to the greatest extent possible and the more of them you know the better. I sense that people are saying that anybody who the latter does not apply to is inferior in many ways.
Why this bias towards traditional languages? If I create my own language and am therefore bi-lingual I would still be inferior, apparently.
I do not think that anybody can truly start to appreciate human diversity until he/she puts all of his/her biases and prejudices aside. In other words, nothing, including being multi-lingual, is superior or inferior.
The question was: what is wrong with being monoligual? Not much different from, say, "What is wrong with being 5 feet, 6 inches tall?".
We all know about the supposed practical utility of being multi-lingual. Not a day goes by without something in some form of media with some form of the message multi-lingual = limited economic and political opportunities. It is the thinking that says that a multi-lingual person is somehow intrinsically superior that I do not get.
Becoming legal citizens, for starters. Illegal immigration is a huge problem here and people sneak across our border every day and never apply for citizenship. Then taxpayers and workings citizens like myself end up paying for their education, healthcare, and living expenses.
I know I'm not going to be able to say anything that will change your mind or anyone else's (after all, I'm one of those racist, bigoted conservatives that you all love to hate on so much) but the reality is that it's costing our country a fortune to support people who have no desire to live and work here legally.
I had a few people from my old church who fled from the mess in Sudan to move to America. They came here, learned our language, passed a citizenship test, and found jobs to pay for their own education. I also know people from Mexico, Quebec, and the Middle East who did the same thing. It's possible for anyone to come here legally and assimilate. However, they have to have the desire to do it and sadly our government has allowed this problem to get out of hand by not enforcing standard laws that would ensure that people who move to America understand what needs to be done to stay here.
Again, I love the diversity of our country. I know enough people who have immigrated who did it honestly and made it work. I don't think it's asking too much for everyone to pay us the same courtesy. I want anyone to comes here to succeed and live a great life. However, there needs to be a willingness on their part to respect our country.
Really the best way to learn a new language is both together. Immersion does not work well on it's own. Language classes do not work well on their own too. If you study in a classroom, I think you can be successful, but it is more hard. A lot of learning will depend on the teacher's skill to teach you. Every person has some different way to learn, and sometimes learning in a classroom is more hard for one kind of person than another. Even the teacher is a good teacher, it can be possible their teaching method is not effective to you. It is impossible that a teacher can make a lesson that is effective to each student. They have to make a lesson that can help the majority of students. This makes language learning especially difficult, because unlike many other kinds of study, language is not mostly about memorization. There are many different parts about learning some new language, and so student's ability about language is always going to be different. Students will have strong and weak points about different things. Students will increase their ability in different amount of time. It is very hard to learn like that and to teach like that. I think because of that, a lot of being successful in learning the language in class is about self motivation, and self study. You have to really want to learn, and you have to work hard to improve in your weak areas. The teacher will not hold the class back because 1 or 2 students have trouble in one thing and other students do not. So it is important those students find the way to fix that weakness by themselves.
That is why immersion is good. If you have immersion, then you have many opportunities to practice outside of the classroom and to fix the weak area about your language ability. But if you only have immersion, probably you will fail to learn language. Learning by immersion is very hard because you have to learn completely by yourself. You can probably learn to be understood and say the basic things, but it will be very difficult to learn to say the more difficult thing. You need someone who can explain the rule and the small differences about the words. If there is no one that can explain the rule then you will probably always make the same kind of mistake and will never be like the native speaker. I know many people that go to Western country to learn English. Some have success about that, but you know, most come back after few years and they said they failed to learn. That is because they tried only immersion. The people I know that learned English the most is the people that studied and did immersion.
I never went to an English speaking country. I learned only by studying in Classroom. I think little bit it worked for me, but I know I still have many mistakes about my English. I studied English almost 20 years. If I lived in a Western country I am sure I can speak English perfectly after 5 years. But if I lived in a foreign country and I studied in same time. I am sure I can learn English much more quickly. Probably I could speak English perfectly in 2 years.
Language is not just one small part of human culture, it's actually one of the biggest part of human culture...
If you could speak Rapa Nui or Spanish, I guarantee you that you would understand more about the diet of people living in Eastern Island more than if you only understood Chinese for example...
???? Wow dude. I'm uhh, not sure people are learning a second or third language to learn or be able to tell about the "diet of the people of Easter Island"...
How, and more importantly why, you relate the two is beyond my capabilities to try to imagine...
Someone may learn a second or third language for any reason they choose, and for you to put limits on why and what else they should do and know while doing so is utterly rediculous...
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