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Amen
I still don't believe that's what Jesus said.
Matthew 5v17-18: 17 “Do not think that I came to destroy the Law or the Prophets. I did not come to destroy but to fulfill it. 18 For assuredly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, one jot or one tittle will by no means pass from the law till all is fulfilled."
I think His design is unmistakeable, given that we aware that He himself was born a Jew, came to give the gospel to the Jews first then the Gentiles, His disciples were Jewish and the first fruits of salvation on the day of Pentecost were 3000 in Jerusalem The first Christians were Jewish and the evangelised the Gentiles, like Paul and Barnabas.
There were many issues that the Jews had with regards with their relationship to God, but never has He given up on His people. They have their place in His plan of salvation even in the book of Revelation. God will never be done with them, and we are told to bless them, for they shall prosper that love them. Through Abraham and his seed we have all been blessed. I love my Messianic brothers and sisters, and I love the nation of Israel. We as Christians are called to love, and though we may misunderstand one another, we can still obey that call. God loves but God is also just and hates sin, just as we should.
Isn't it wonderful? Despite our sin and the death it worked in us, there was still something of value and salvageable in us, Jew or not. There but for the grace of God, not the law, we go - but the law has its place and purpose even today. It's even treated as an effective tool for evangelism, which I can totally see its applicability even today, as archaic as it may seem to some.
God works all things together for good for those who love Him and are called according to His purposes; even the law, in our day and time. How precious are His thoughts towards us
I don't understand your response. Are you referring to both verse referenced in my post?When Jesus said He came to fulfill the law He meant that He came to keep and uphold it in perfection so that He may be the perfect unblemished sacrifice for us all.
I don't understand your response. Are you referring to both verse referenced in my post?
I don't think we both see the same thing when we look at those same two verses.No I was just explaining what He meant when He said that He came to fulfill the law. Many people don’t understand what He meant when He said He came to fulfill it.
Do you believe there are sons of Levi serving as priests today, then?
Yes, I believe that Jesus is reigning on the throne, and that the Lord's word is truth.(CLV) Jer 33:20
Thus says Yahweh: If you could annul My covenant with the day and My covenant with the night so that daytime and night fail to come about in their proper time,
(CLV) Jer 33:21
then also My covenant could be annulled with David My servant, so that he should not come to have a son reigning on his throne, and that with the Levites, the priests, My ministers.
Do you not believe that Yahshua is reigning on the throne?
Is not YHWH's word the truth?
Levites Today
Truth is that which has been sent to the earth from heaven by the will of the Father.(CLV) Hb 10:26
For at our sinning voluntarily after obtaining the recognition of the truth, it is no longer leaving a sacrifice concerned with sins,
(CLV) Hb 10:27
but a certain fearful waiting for judging and fiery jealousy, about to be eating the hostile.
(CLV) Hb 10:28
Anyone repudiating Moses' law is dying without pity on the testimony of two or three witnesses.
(CLV) Hb 10:29
Of how much worse punishment, are you supposing, will he be counted worthy who tramples on the Son of God, and deems the blood of the covenant by which he is hallowed contaminating, and outrages the spirit of grace?
Yes, I believe that Jesus is reigning on the throne, and that the Lord's word is truth.
I do not see Levites serving as priests today. Do you believe they are serving today, but are not visible, like they are serving in secret? Or are they serving in heaven? Or are they not serving currently?
Yes.
Thanks! Do they have to be sons of Levi?Well there you go. It's no secret. Walk into a synagogue today; and you can find Levites, YHWH's priests, serving YHWH's ministry.
Shabbat shalom.
Thanks! Do they have to be sons of Levi?
Right, so we can go into a synagogue today and see someone serving as Rabbi or cantor, but we can't actually say if they are a son/daughter of Levi.It depends. Reform Judaism has no restrictions. Both men and women can be cantors and nobody is at all clear about their genealogical history. Millennia ago the practice of tribal intermarriage was abandoned, primarily beginning with the dispersion of the Jews among the nations. As for Conservative and Orthodox congregations some may claim to be Levites but the claims are really quite sketchy, especially when one's ancestry also comes from other tribes.
Right, so we can go into a synagogue today and see someone serving as Rabbi or cantor, but we can't actually say if they are a son/daughter of Levi.
To me, that would qualify as a levitical priesthood that is not visible.
Right, I was using the broadest possible understanding of Priesthood.Sort of. A cantor is not a priest. A cantor merely leads the prayers of the congregation. He does not offer sacrifices as a Levitical priest was required to do, nor could he, except in the broadest sense of the word.
Right, I was using the broadest possible understanding of Priesthood.
The rabbis today don't actually sacrifice things either, do they?
The rabbis today don't actually sacrifice things either, do they?
I thought that's what you were saying over here:Rabbis? Are you conflating Rabbis with Priests?
Sacrifice: From the Latin Sacer (sacred, holy, or Hebrew kadosh) + Facio from the Latin which means (do, make)
Now kadosh means dedicated. Are you suggesting that no Levites are dedicated to YHWH?
As far as what sacrifice means is concerned, a multiple of Hebrew words have been translated as "sacrifice;" and most Christians have no understanding of what those words mean.
I've started an in-depth study on this subject. You can find it here: YHWH's Table (Part 1)
If it's not the rabbis who are acting as priests in the synagogue, who did you mean that we would see as Levites, the Lord's priests?Well there you go. It's no secret. Walk into a synagogue today; and you can find Levites, YHWH's priests, serving YHWH's ministry.
Shabbat shalom.
who did you mean that we would see as Levites, the Lord's priests?
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