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The "evidence" is so clear. We are smarter than any animals. So we are not evolved.
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The movie about a man who finds his faith because his son had a conveniently timed asthma attack and invading aliens were incompetent?
I fail to see the relevance.
The fact of the matter is, we are all in a continual state of evolution. No thinker thinks twice. Moment to moment, we are different persons. We are in a continual state of evolution.
Then why did you imply otherwise?
I don't have a dog.
Anyway, how is me being smarter then a dog, evidence that intelligence can't evolve?
-_- you have yet to demonstrate any evidence that cognitive abilities are somehow special cases that defy evolution as a theory, over traits such as developing fingers rather than paws or eyesight.The "evidence" is so clear. We are smarter than any animals. So we are not evolved.
How do you reach that conclusion? Not all animals that are nonhuman are equally intelligent to each other, so why would you ever think that?Otherwise, we will be equally intelligent as our dogs.
-_- you have yet to demonstrate any evidence that cognitive abilities are somehow special cases that defy evolution as a theory, over traits such as developing fingers rather than paws or eyesight.
How do you reach that conclusion? Not all animals that are nonhuman are equally intelligent to each other, so why would you ever think that?
Don't give me this quit-you-can't-win-stuff. You are no scientist and you really have no idea what you are talking about.Hey, people. Quit, please quit. You have no chance to win on this trivial issue.
Human intelligence can not be evolved.
Seriously? You actually believe that? OK. Assertions of evidence still have to be demonstrated to be valid evidence. Please provide the supporting observations and experiments that demonstrate that animal intelligence is broadly the same when compared with human. Otherwise all we have is your unsubstantiated opinion.They are all approximately equal when compared with that of human.
That is the evidence.
Seriously? You actually believe that? OK. Assertions of evidence still have to be demonstrated to be valid evidence. Please provide the supporting observations and experiments that demonstrate that animal intelligence is broadly the same when compared with human. Otherwise all we have is your unsubstantiated opinion.
Yes, in certain areas we are. I've yet to see a dog pass high-school algebra, though these is evidence dogs have some capacity to count. I know dogs can hear sounds way beyond our range of hearing, but I've never seen one conduct a symphony. Have you? After all, if as you say, all creatures are equal in IQ, then there must be a maestro dog somewhere. Hmmm. What symphony orchestra does he or she conduct?I am so tired of repeating this. It is worse than teaching a kindergarten kid.
Compare yourself with dog, cat, cow, sheep, etc. Are you standing out sooooo much in intelligence?
Compare yourself with dog, cat, cow, sheep, etc. Are you standing out sooooo much in intelligence?
Well,, after all, Descartes sure thought you should prove the existence of souls. That's why he argued, "Je pense, donc je suis." You should remember that Descartes was the father of modern philosophy and that he started with the method of radical doubt. Everything should be submitted to doubt and disregarded until we find something we cannot doubt. He touched on a point that had been unrecognized for 2000 years in philosophy: That it is not enough to say you know, you have to say how you know.
Well, according to Descartes, that is one of the very few things you can be sure of, can't doubt. But the rest a is all up for grabs, especially the physical world,which he considers a very dark world. Descartes was looking for something that if you can't doubt p, then p. So far, the only thing he could find was that you are a thinking substance, because if you doubt that, you are still thinking.if we the humans feel that way, then how can we deny the existence of a central being that is the very organ of perceptions?! - it is a mass phenomenon
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Well, according to Descartes, that is one of the very few things you can be sure of, can't doubt. But the rest a is all up for grabs, especially the physical world,which he considers a very dark world. Descartes was looking for something that if you can't doubt p, then p. So far, the only thing he could find was that you are a thinking substance, because if you doubt that, you are still thinking.
No, no. Not Descartes at all. Descartes lived at the beginning of the Enlightenment and Age of Skepticism. With he Thirty Years War, many were coming to doubt all they had been taught about religion and everything else. That included Descartes, who says via his life that he has come to doubt everything he was taught in his strict Catholic upbringing. He now wants to explore just how we can know things. it's no longer enough to say you know, you have to say how. Examine the whole learning process. He thinks the place to start is with radical doubt. That is your built-in BS detector. If you can doubt something even in the least , then drop it. This, by the way, led to the modern idea that if you have the least doubt about a person's guilt, then let him go. Descartes ran through a systematic list of things he could doubt, including even that he had a body. The only thing he couldn't doubt was that he was doubting and that meant the only thing you cam be one-hundred percent sure of is that you are a thinking substance. You should read his "Meditations " some time. Major work in philosophy. Now, he did argue that there was a God. But that angered the church, since he was basing everything on reason, not revelation. I hope this helps.why again according to descartes, don't every man has his own mind to think?!, what if descartes, let's say, just deliberately presented the things complicated(-ly) in order to make people think or give them food for thought?!, for example if he thought so: "it will be too easy for the people if they receive all the truth quite directly - life can thus be too boring, so, let i make the truth obscure"?!
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What did I imply?
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