OldChurchGuy
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Oh the problems one has when one does not keep up with these posts!
Yes, for me the explanation makes sense. Thanks.
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Your interpretations of the language here actually makes a lot of sense, I have to say. I wonder if it's helping to clear up some of OldChurchGuy's misgivings about this passage?
Firstly, I want to check my understanding of the Christian definition of sin... I'm under the impression that it's something like, "transgression against God," and that it has nothing to do with whether or not an act is harmful to another human being. (This is based on the observation that God has often done things, or required others to do things, that hurt people, but are righteous in his eyes.) I'm also under the impression that sin somehow exists independently of individuals' actions, if an infant could be said to be sinful before it is old enough to really do anything yet. (But feel free to expand on this paragraph if need be.)
Anyway, here's what I'm wondering: what really is the nature of sin? How does it work? Is it supposed to be tangible in some form, or is it meant to be taken as a metaphor? Is there any way that we as mortal beings can detect its existence or negation? In particular, I'm wondering about sin both in the sense of "original sin" and in the phrase, "Jesus died for our sins" -- if someone could explain how sin operates in both of these contexts, I'd appreciate it.
Sorry for the number of questions, but since they're all centered around the same basic topic I'm hoping it won't be a problem. Thanks in advance for your responses.
This misuse of the idiom "inherit" is stupefying. There is no genetic or biological predisposition to sin. Otherwise Jesus was a fool to say to people "go and sin no more". It also makes "forgiveness" some kind of genetic mutating action that changes are biological and genetic sin nature. That's nonsense.
I'm not answering for KCDAD but it should be noted that the concept of 'original sin' is very much a product of St Augustine and the western church.Thanks for the additional replies. (In case anyone's wondering, I've still been watching this thread and am still interested in people's various perspectives on this topic, even though I may not have posted in a while.)
I'm wondering if you could elaborate on this -- are you saying that there is no original sin, or are you just commenting on the validity of using a particular word to describe it?
At the risk of getting my wrists slapped I have to say that this is about as incorrect a view of what sin is as it is possible to get, IMO.God has asked us NOT to do some things . . . The things that He has asked us not to do, IF we do them, results in sin.
If you want to understand "sin" as selfishness and self centeredness, then yes, I believe in original sin; we are all born as totally self natured. That is why I believe Jesus said we need to deny ourself and Paul said to die to self. (It also makes "Love your neighbor as yourself" take on new meaning.)Thanks for the additional replies. (In case anyone's wondering, I've still been watching this thread and am still interested in people's various perspectives on this topic, even though I may not have posted in a while.)
I'm wondering if you could elaborate on this -- are you saying that there is no original sin, or are you just commenting on the validity of using a particular word to describe it?
Look. It is really very simple.Sin is any act of wrongdoing or any act against God and all things Divine. Sin only exsits because of Satan, so it is not God's fault we sin. Sin can be forgiven by God, any sin at all, from lieing to blasphemy. Jesus, as He was being nailed to the corss, even forgave His killers.
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