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3rd April 2003 at 08:28 PM Arikay said this in Post #15 Please tell me the context then.
Also, please tell me why you think god will have the "last laugh" at evolutionists?
Also, please explain to me how you arent ignoring gods creation by ignoring evidence that has been found in the earth and universe?
3rd April 2003 at 09:55 PM look said this in Post #20
Ah, the old "literal" vs. "figurative" reading trick. You could do better. Let's see, You live in a literal world, right? Yep.
God is literal, right? Yep.
So where does the "figurative" come in? God is not a storybook character.
In the real world, there is a complete lack of verifiable, ongoing evolution.
Mutations are genetic twisting of the original information needed to reproduce after their kind. they usually die within a short peroid of time.
How does the proven existance of gravity and a country compare with the lack of any ongoing evolution? The first two are observable, while evolution is not.
Therefore, because of the exercise of faith in it, it becomes a belief system.
3rd April 2003 at 08:55 PM look said this in Post #20
Creation science on the other hand, now they didn't make the same mistakes the evolution scientists (henceforth I will call them 'darwinmites') made. The creationists actually went and built an biosphere to test their theories and they have managed to come up with a pretty good working creation model. They have been quite the through ones in their experiments. They can create any type of conditions ranging from the frequency of light, atmospheric pressure, oxygen nitrogen ratios, artificial eletromagnetic fields, in other words, they can recreate the living conditions of the pre-flood world. The biosphere is large enough for a body of water, fish, vegetation and different species of animals. The results they have gotten after a few generations are outrageous! But, alias, the darwinmites have fought tooth and nail to discredit and harrass these undaunted thinkers.
3rd April 2003 at 07:12 PM look said this in Post #22
You really should, as a member of a CHRISTIAN forum, read the Bible yourself. I gave you the references, you can look them up and then you can understand what I really said.
I thought you was going to check out the references I gave you? What do you think I gave them to you for? Sheesh!
Oh please! What kind of a question is that? It's the darwinites who have ignored the evidence of creation as per the Genesis model. It's not my fault the Darwinites misinterpreted the evidence in the earth and the heavens...
??? I don't think you even know who we are talking about.3rd April 2003 at 10:09 PM Arikay said this in Post #21
Look, um,.
The danger of pitting god vs science is that so far god has yet to win unless people ignore evidence.
Is god really that weak?
The "real science 200 years ago"? Oh please, ROFLOL! Tell me another one! You are a funny man! That was a good one, frum!!!
Creation science on the other hand, now they didn't make the same mistakes the evolution scientists (henceforth I will call them 'darwinmites') made. The creationists actually went and built an biosphere to test their theories and they have managed to come up with a pretty good working creation model. They have been quite the through ones in their experiments. They can create any type of conditions ranging from the frequency of light, atmospheric pressure, oxygen nitrogen ratios, artificial eletromagnetic fields, in other words, they can recreate the living conditions of the pre-flood world. The biosphere is large enough for a body of water, fish, vegetation and different species of animals. The results they have gotten after a few generations are outrageous! But, alias, the darwinmites have fought tooth and nail to discredit and harrass these undaunted thinkers.
3rd April 2003 at 07:47 PM Jephunneh said this in Post #18
Daniel 1:4
Children in whom was no blemish, but well favoured, and skilful in all wisdom, and cunning in knowledge, and understanding science, and such as had ability in them to stand in the king's palace, and whom they might teach the learning and the tongue of the Chaldeans.
1 Timothy 6:20
O Timothy, keep that which is committed to thy trust, avoiding profane and vain babblings, and oppositions of science falsely so called:
3rd April 2003 at 10:12 PM Pete Harcoff said this in Post #23
1) Who was the Bible originally written for? Highly trained scientists or illiterate peasants?
2) What is more important with respect to the creation account? The details or the overall message? (Keeping in perspective reason #1) [/]
Tell you what though, maybe you can explain what is responsible for:
1) Antibiotic resistance in bacteria
2) Insect resistance to pesticides
3) Various new breeds of dog introduced over the last century
If it's not evolution, then what is it?
3rd April 2003 at 10:09 PM Arikay said this in Post #21 The danger of pitting god vs science is that so far god has yet to win unless people ignore evidence. Is god really that weak?
3rd April 2003 at 11:00 PM JohnR7 said this in Post #31
It is not evolution to establish new breeds dogs. That is just animal husbandry.
As far as drug resistant bacteria. Bacteria has not actually evolved, the resistant bacteria was always there. It is just become more of a problem. For example, you have more men now going on sex related vaccations to "rare & exotic" places and they are bringing back rare and exotic diseases that are drug resistant. This has always been a problem, but it is on the increase right now. Did you ever follow the trail of death and destruction that Capt. Cook and his crew left behind from diseases? Did you ever hear the story of someone like Typhoid Mary, and how many people she managed to infect?
That is not evolution, that is just plain old sin that has been around ever sense Adam and Eve fell from the Grace of God. The bacteria they were successful in treating was during the war, the infections that set in from injurys. The more common bacteria.
As far as the insects. If you want to argue that the insects are evolving, than that would be an arguement for YEC, sense the "change" is taking place in just a few years. Rather than the millions of years that traditional evolutionary theorys call for.
:o Oh Boy... Guys, I have an apology to make! :o The above quote I made the other night is not found on the internet! *smacking my forehead* The story was told to me by a person I had met in North Carolina, a number of years ago.3rd April 2003 at 09:55 PM look said this in Post #20
Creation science on the other hand, now they didn't make the same mistakes the evolution scientists (henceforth I will call them 'darwinites') made. The creationists actually went and built an biosphere to test their theories and they have managed to come up with a pretty good working creation model. They have been quite the through ones in their experiments. They can create any type of conditions ranging from the frequency of light, atmospheric pressure, oxygen nitrogen ratios, artificial eletromagnetic fields, in other words, they can recreate the living conditions of the pre-flood world. The biosphere is large enough for a body of water, fish, vegetation and different species of animals. The results they have gotten after a few generations are outrageous! But, alias, the darwinites have fought tooth and nail to discredit and harrass these undaunted thinkers.
Now, these are the guys I respect, because they are using science to prove that the pre-flood world was indeed as the Bible literally discribes and shows that evolution is false. Why do I say evolution is false? You can extrapolate backwards and get nowhere, the disappearance of the "missing link" keeps coming up. Whereas, with the young earth creationists, they can show by backwards extrapolation the exact same things as the Bible shows.
4th April 2003 at 12:34 AM Pete Harcoff said this in Post #34
John, as notto has pointed out, all three of those things are examples of evolution (as per the Theory of Evolution). Period.
If you think they are not then you are clearly working with your own private definiton of what biological evolution is. In which case, feel free to continue to use that definition, but it won't be applicable to most (if not all) discussions of the theory of evolution in these forums.
4th April 2003 at 11:01 PM Follower of Christ said this in Post #37
We know that God created His animals with the the ability to diversify within the confines of their ''kind'' (dog is a dog).
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