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Wouldn't a demon who wanted to secure your damnation do exactly the same; that is, give you false beliefs and offer assurance that such beliefs were indefeasible?
Aren't we getting ahead of ourselves here? You haven't presented any reasons to think that there is a God who wishes to communicate with his worshippers via personal religious experience in the first place. As I alluded to earlier, this mechanism of divine communication must be fallible because so many people are receiving the "wrong" messages. So we need to determine the conditions under which personal religious experience reliably leads to knowledge about the divine.A demon may desire to do the same.
I think we need to remember that God is sovereign. This means that the demons that do exist are subject to His will. Now if you have any reasons to think that God would allow a demon to give false beliefs to one of His children for whom He died and has chosen to dwell in and offer assurances that such beliefs were indefeasible then you may present them.
Because, as you phrased it, you have to believe, to ask, to receive the "effect" of the "Holy Ghost". For it not to be circular, you would not have to first believe. I know I can't ask, because the thought of it is completely ludicrous.
“Entities are not to be multiplied beyond necessity.”
When you asked for evidence that would lend support the idea that God do not exist, and that Jesus was not who He and His apostles said He was.
Or, will you accept absence of evidence as evidence of absence, on the subject of gods?
You're using meaningless terms. There is no "atheist apologetics." There is counter-apologetics. "Doctrines of doubt" doesn't mean a thing to me.
I stand corrected. Although I'm not sure if the term "apologetics" really suits. Atheism doesn't need apologetics because it is a response to theistic claims; it doesn't have its own body of doctrines that need to be defended. There are, however, certainly many misconceptions about atheism that need to be addressed, and perhaps that's partly what these sites seek to achieve.
http://www.atheistapologist.com/
The Atheist Apologetics Research Ministry
https://carm.org/aarm
Atheist Apologetics
http://atheist-apologetics.tumblr.com/
I stand corrected. Although I'm not sure if the term "apologetics" really suits. Atheism doesn't need apologetics because it is a response to theistic claims; it doesn't have its own body of doctrines that need to be defended. There are, however, certainly many misconceptions about atheism that need to be addressed, and perhaps that's partly what these sites seek to achieve.
There are many reasons atheists would be interested in discussing religion; we've gone through some of these reasons before (1, 2, 3).I see atheist as having a form of "doctrine" in such writings as The God Delusion. We discussed it before and you disagreed, I contend there is a neutral position of unbelief, "don't care, leave me alone, get out of my yard." But then there is "there is no God and I'm going to a religious form to set them straight!"
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