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Tinfoilhattery.1. I hate to say it, but the Protestant Reformation was a deliberate rebellion by the Catholic Monarchy to create Demoacry. One guy hinted on it here, I'm just filling the gaps.
I did not say that the Protestant Reformation was inevitable
I just said that over the last 500 years, so much has changed because of it, we can not assume what it would be like if it never happened
1. I hate to say it, but the Protestant Reformation was a deliberate rebellion by the Catholic Monarchy to create Demoacry. One guy hinted on it here, I'm just filling the gaps.
2. The Catholic Monarchs were getting bored of the Sacraments and Liturgy. They wanted Humanism. To glorify themselves. No more of this God stuff.
3. Catholic scholars spent hundreds of years researching various fields to help build a very powerful form of Government Democracy based on Constitution based on the Bible, partially.
4. The ancient romans and greeks loved their ideas of liberty which were naturally very condusive to a Christian foreground.
5. The Romans did not like the Germanic Tribe style of government or the ancient muslim for that matter but were able to create peace by imploying the democratic separation of powers philosphy and unity of diversity.
6. Calling a democratic nation constitutionarily run or a constitutional government democratically run is a logical inconclusion. It does not make sense. Those are both two different forms of government, entirely.
7. For America it is the Dems and Repubs, Russia the Commies, middle east dictators, europe is fashism, china socialism... Different names, but not that different in application. Either the system shares its power among parties or not and emphasises the roman ideologies or the chinese/ruissian/dictator form. Not so hard to understand.
8. The greatest book ever written on the dark ages would have to be foxes book of martyrs in my opinion. The two babylons. I say this purely from a scholary point of view.
9. The better 90s sources would have to be the prophecy club.
10. I am unaware of any new modern authors or speakers as i believe since america has basically been turned over to a shadow Government the world now awaits the show down.
11. People who run on emotion like to over emphasise a point on the spectrum to strain a nat and eat a camel as the good saying goes.
12. I believe, as someone else stated the reformation was inevitable. Inquisition was unpopular, too messy, unintelligent you could say and just - old. Everyone is dead. No one left to kill the good saying says those who live by the sword will perish by it. Thats what happened the inquisitors and all those cronies started turning on one another - certain royalties and nobiities started getting involved it was just too messy. Revelations says that they will answer to God themselves so no worries there diggin up old mens dead bones.
13. Democracy presented an oppertunity for global government fusion. Whether thats going to end with them shooting up some more sheep unlike ever before or ever will be, the skies being rolled up like a scroll, God establishing new jerusalem, sealing the tribes and saints, judging the nations and casting satan, the anti christ and false prophet and their children into the lake of fire forever or... (fill in here) not for me to decide but for others to decide. I will say this. God is not mocked. And the devil is not the only one laughing..
. He who laughs last...
15. My opinion is purely this to answer the op. The reformation was God calling the catholic church to repentence. Imho had there been no reformation the chinese germanic tribes or muslim antients would have completely whiped out the catholic church from off the earth along with temselves and i say this conservatively and carefully the reformation embodied those principals off the gentiles that the first century church loved. Thank God for preserving some of our ancestors and even sparring those who were guilty for our sakes
Another question worth asking might be what if Rome had accepted reform and guided it rather than fighting it and attempting to stamp it out?
Tinfoilhattery.
My one-word response was meant to signify that the idea that "the Protestant Reformation was a deliberate rebellion by the Catholic Monarchy to create Demoacry [sic]" is pseudohistorical theorizing at best, and IMO, ridiculous to the same degree as those conspiracy theorists who go about in tinfoil hats.That's always helpful when you make up new words.
Protestant theology wasn't a reform of Catholic theology even though to this day they share a core epistemology. Protestant Reform was a reformation of Christian theism and a new way of looking at things. It was a new unified theory, the Aristotelian Scholasticism was breaking down and Protestants were a movement of those who no longer had to submit to Rome.
Now the political influence of Rome is limited to Vatican City, at the time, they unified Europe and dominated politics. One has to ask the question, what happened to made Protestant democracy what it is today?
Without the Protestant Reformation there would have been no Scientific Revolution, a fact from history that is lost on modern scholars. John Locke and Isaac Newton were Protestant Whigs and best friends so there was much more going on there then people crafting tin foil hats.
My one-word response was meant to signify that the idea that "the Protestant Reformation was a deliberate rebellion by the Catholic Monarchy to create Demoacry [sic]" is pseudohistorical theorizing at best, and IMO, ridiculous to the same degree as those conspiracy theorists who go about in tinfoil hats.
(And FWIW I didn't make up the word 'tinfoilhattery'.)
rebellion by the Catholic Monarchy to create Demoacry
1. I hate to say it, but the Protestant Reformation was a deliberate rebellion by the Catholic Monarchy to create Demoacry. One guy hinted on it here, I'm just filling the gaps.
2. The Catholic Monarchs were getting bored of the Sacraments and Liturgy. They wanted Humanism. To glorify themselves. No more of this God stuff.
3. Catholic scholars spent hundreds of years researching various fields to help build a very powerful form of Government Democracy based on Constitution based on the Bible, partially.
4. The ancient romans and greeks loved their ideas of liberty which were naturally very condusive to a Christian foreground.
5. The Romans did not like the Germanic Tribe style of government or the ancient muslim for that matter but were able to create peace by imploying the democratic separation of powers philosphy and unity of diversity.
6. Calling a democratic nation constitutionarily run or a constitutional government democratically run is a logical inconclusion. It does not make sense. Those are both two different forms of government, entirely.
7. For America it is the Dems and Repubs, Russia the Commies, middle east dictators, europe is fashism, china socialism... Different names, but not that different in application. Either the system shares its power among parties or not and emphasises the roman ideologies or the chinese/ruissian/dictator form. Not so hard to understand.
8. The greatest book ever written on the dark ages would have to be foxes book of martyrs in my opinion. The two babylons. I say this purely from a scholary point of view.
9. The better 90s sources would have to be the prophecy club.
10. I am unaware of any new modern authors or speakers as i believe since america has basically been turned over to a shadow Government the world now awaits the show down.
11. People who run on emotion like to over emphasise a point on the spectrum to strain a nat and eat a camel as the good saying goes.
12. I believe, as someone else stated the reformation was inevitable. Inquisition was unpopular, too messy, unintelligent you could say and just - old. Everyone is dead. No one left to kill the good saying says those who live by the sword will perish by it. Thats what happened the inquisitors and all those cronies started turning on one another - certain royalties and nobiities started getting involved it was just too messy. Revelations says that they will answer to God themselves so no worries there diggin up old mens dead bones.
13. Democracy presented an oppertunity for global government fusion. Whether thats going to end with them shooting up some more sheep unlike ever before or ever will be, the skies being rolled up like a scroll, God establishing new jerusalem, sealing the tribes and saints, judging the nations and casting satan, the anti christ and false prophet and their children into the lake of fire forever or... (fill in here) not for me to decide but for others to decide. I will say this. God is not mocked. And the devil is not the only one laughing..
. He who laughs last...
15. My opinion is purely this to answer the op. The reformation was God calling the catholic church to repentence. Imho had there been no reformation the chinese germanic tribes or muslim antients would have completely whiped out the catholic church from off the earth along with temselves and i say this conservatively and carefully the reformation embodied those principals off the gentiles that the first century church loved. Thank God for preserving some of our ancestors and even sparring those who were guilty for our sakes
Moreover, without the Reformed wing of the Protestants, Puritan political theory would have never undermined absolute monarchy as it did.
What would society be like today?
Much better and less divisiveWhat would society be like today?
What would society be like today?
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