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What happens during and after the baptism of the Holy Spirit

dms1972

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I was reading a Bio about Oswald Chambers and he described when he was at Bible College, he heard a minister talk about the Holy Spirit and Chambers went back to his rooms and asked for the Baptism of the Holy Spirit, and following it he says the next four years, it was only the overruling grace of God, and some kind friends that kept him out of a mental hospital!! He says that the sense of his own depravity, vileness and bad-motivedness was terrific. God was he says taking him by the light of the Holy Spirit and his Word through every ramification of his being. This was after he had responded to God's call to the ministry and when he was in training. He eventually came through, but during it he was thinking either christianity was a fraud, or he had got the wrong end of the stick.

Oswald Chambers was Baptized in the Holy Spirit – Bethel Cornerstone

Many years ago, in my teens I went with family to a church service after having not been to church for a while. I began to think afterwards about receiving the Holy Spirit, and it seemed to me at that time it was very simple, just a matter of asking and receiving. I thought myself a christian, and had thought I was for several years, but that I was maybe a bit backslidden. If I recall correctly when I sought the Holy Spirit, God took me back to the Cross, to the Atonement. It seemed like I had not received the Atonement. I thought I knew all about salvation and christian doctrine and was saved. But it seemed like I hadn't received the Atonement.

So i want to ask how does one receive the Atonement? I thought I knew about and had believed in Jesus dying for my sins. I'd been told not to expect feelings, that salvation wasn't a feeling.

I was reading another book on the Holy Spirit by HP Barker and he talks about the cleansing of a leper in the old testament, Leviticus 14:14-17, where it says about applying first the blood of a lamb to the ear, the thumb and, the big toe, then oil in the same manner.

I have read theology book after book, and many other books and I seem to be no further on, or even sure I am a christian?
 
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This is what I have come to understand.

Jesus was born with the HS within.

At Baptism Jesus received the HS upon for empowering.

John was told to identify the Messiah by the fact that on Him alone the HS would settle and remain.

We need to be born again to recieve the HS within.

Subsequently we (at a time of His choosing) receive the permanent anointing of power called the BHS.

For me this was accompanied by deep repentance even though I was born again many years earlier.

Bad theology around this has caused much confusion but in essence the matter is quite simple.

The experience of BHS is different for everyone depending on what He wants to do in your life at the time.
 
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There is some confusion on this topic as the word "baptism" is a transliteration of the Greek baptizo which means to immerse. Bible translators probably kept the Greek form because "immersion" does not fit well with the then established practice of infant baptism.

There are three types of immersion referred to in the bible, water, fire, and placed into the body of Christ. A case can be made that the endowment of the Holy Spirit with supernatural gifts by the laying on of hands was a type of "baptism". However, these "powers" did not last and were only a taste of the age to come (Heb 6:5)

People with good intentions can exhort one to copy all the practices described in the New Testament but one can find oneself striving to manufacture something within them that can seem disingenuous.

We all understand the bible imperfectly. God knows this. You want to resist the fear driven reaction to being told that you have fallen short of some criteria when your faith (trust) should simply rest with Jesus.

As you grow in the word, you should find greater peace. If you find greater anxiety, you may ask yourself if the path you are on is actually taking you closer to our Savior.
 
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Agree ..the doctrine of baptisms,..." (Heb 6:2). There's 3 baptisms/immersions

1 - By The Holy Spirit into Jesus which reconciles us to God is the baptism for salvation. Baptized by the Holy Spirit into the body of Christ by believing in His death, burial, and resurrection.
(Rev 1:5; Matt 26:28; Mark 1:4-9, 16:16; Luk 3:3; 1 Cor 12:13; Acts 2:38; Gal 3:27, II Cor 5;18).)

Water and Spirit baptism follows salvation - not in a set order though
2 - By another believer (water baptism) Jesus said "... fitting for us to fulfill all righteousness," All 3 persons of the Godhead endorsed it (Matt 3:13-16). (Matt 3:6,11 ; 28:18-20; Acts 8:39, 10:47, 22:16; John 3:5).

3 - By Jesus who sends the promise of the Father baptists us "by," "with" and "in" the Holy Spirit (The Spirit baptism) includes when the Holy Spirit comes upon us, He endures us with power for service to Him and to keep His Word. (Matt 3:11; Mark 1:8, Luke 3:16; John 1:33, Acts 1:5, 8:14-17, 10:44-48, 11:16; I Cor 12:13, Luk 24:49, Eph 5:18, Acts 4:31; I John 3:24; Eze 36:25-28; John 14:25-27).

They're different yet
"And there are three that bear witness in earth, the Spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one." I John 5:7-8
 
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As you grow in the word, you should find greater peace. If you find greater anxiety, you may ask yourself if the path you are on is actually taking you closer to our Savior.
What do you think of this Corinthians scripture? Do we also experience this hardship and distress in our journey?

2 Corinthians 1:8 For we do not want you to be unaware, brothers and sisters, of our affliction which occurred in Asia, that we were burdened excessively, beyond our strength, so that we despaired even of life. 9 Indeed, we had the sentence of death within ourselves so that we would not trust in ourselves, but in God who raises the dead,

There is this scripture too-

Acts 14:22 strengthening the souls of the disciples, encouraging them to continue in the faith, and saying, “It is through many tribulations that we must enter the kingdom of God.”
 
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