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What Every Protestant Should Know

Andrewn

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Either the Protestants are right and the Christian Church went astray somehow from soon after Jesus until at least the early 1200's or the Apostolic Churches are closer to the truth and the Protestants have erred, at least in some respects.
"The Bogomils called for a return to what they considered to be early spiritual teaching, rejecting the ecclesiastical hierarchy, and their primary political tendencies were resistance to the state and church authorities. This helped the movement spread quickly in the Balkans, gradually expanding throughout the Byzantine Empire and later reaching Kievan Rus', Bosnia (Bosnian Church), Dalmatia, Serbia, Italy, and France (Cathars)."

Bogomilism - Wikipedia

According to the article, the Bogomils were dualists or Gnostics and were founded in the 10th century. But the point is that "Apostolic" churches were not the only game in town.

This being said, I personally have no problem with doctrines about which Orthodox & Catholics agree but I do have a problem with veneration of icons and some practices of the clergy.

I consider things like Predestinarianism, Credobaptism, and Dispensationalism to be Protestant heresies.
 
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The Reformers were not ignorant of church history.
I've never said otherwise. I stand ready to criticize Luther, for example, as a rebel and a heretic. But ignorant of history? Nope.

Calvin’s Institutes are full of quotations from Catholic theologians. The Reformers thought the church had started out right, but error built up over time, with the most serious problems being in the last few centuries.
This part talks around a sort of interesting point. Namely, that the og "reformers" had theological views that many modern Protestants would find quite shocking. But a lot of Protestants tend not to realize that because, y'know, we know how well they tend to do with studying history.
 
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Reform, an interesting word. Re-form. So it starts with one form and moves to another form; but the essence is the same. The object being reformed does not cease to exist and a new object take its place, like if you drop a crystal glass and break it. You have two options. First, you can throw the broken glass away and get another whole one. Second you can fire up the forge and reform the glass from the broken shards. The first option is much easier than the second. The counter-reformation was the true reformation of Catholicism, where the glass was reshaped; but the essence was the same. What is called the Protestant Reformation was a revolt. Like all revolts, the original church was torn down and a new church built up on the ashes of the old. This new church might have had a lot of the appearances of the old church (just like the new crystal glass can look like the old one); but it is a new church and does not share the essence of the old.
 
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when did each of those churches divide from Catholic Church?
 
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Don't you love it when someone comes along 1,500 - 2,000 years into a movement and says, "Hey, you've been doing it wrong all this time. I know the way it should be done?" Yet, in any other scenario we would probably argue that those closer to an event would prove to be better witnesses than those who came along 1,500 years later. It rather defies logic, I think.
 
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Some information on locations where apostles ministered.
CHURCH FATHERS: Church History, Book III (Eusebius)

Eusebius Church History (Book III)
Chapter 1. The Parts of the World in which the Apostles preached Christ.

Meanwhile the holy apostles and disciples of our Saviour were dispersed throughout the world. Parthia, according to tradition, was allotted to Thomas as his field of labor, Scythia to Andrew, and Asia to John, who, after he had lived some time there, died at Ephesus.

Peter appears to have preached in Pontus, Galatia, Bithynia, Cappadocia, and Asia to the Jews of the dispersion. And at last, having come to Rome, he was crucified head-downwards; for he had requested that he might suffer in this way. What do we need to say concerning Paul, who preached the Gospel of Christ from Jerusalem to Illyricum, and afterwards suffered martyrdom in Rome under Nero?
 
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