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For those who have no clue.

Go to youtube, and type "Not the Queen's speech, Brian Haw's" I am not allowed to post a link...

What do you say to all that?

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So many people out there, are left with the damage done by a empire that wants to extend it's grips around the world.

I'm an atheist, and won't ever bother believing in religion. Its terrible how all these fundementalist religous people support Bush.
 

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Why is it no one wants to say anything?

For those of you who like Bush so much, what about skull and bones society?

Being a neo conservative, he helped set up this empire, well increase really.

And with 911? That gave the people enough reason to occupy Afghanistan? And bomb the crap out of innocent civilians when in truth they should of stayed in Afghanistan and pick up the mess they made back from the 1980's.

You can't trust the last five presidents, and ones even before.

May be John Kennedy is the only guy, as he did have some inspirational speeches.

Johnson was a crook, the Gulf of tokin incident? the attack on the USS liberty, and ordered jets away from the ship when attacked.

Nixon another crook,

And no I don't see any of this as simple failures. What I see is an empire, it is destroying itself and the world if not careful.
 
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I watched. There many who feel the same way, although I certainly would not blame Christian preachers.
 
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You can't trust the last five presidents, and ones even before.

May be John Kennedy is the only guy, as he did have some inspirational speeches

Uhh, Kennedy tried to secretly invade Cuba, tried to claim it was a Cuban rebellion even going as far as painting Cuban insignia on US planes and bombing Cuba, and then left the invasion force to die without air support when the plan started going south.

I don't think people would like JFK so much today if he hadn't been shot.
 
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Yeh the bay of pigs?

You don't think that was done by the CIA? And planned before he was inuguaragated, and then carried out, didn&#8216;t he take the blame?

Who removed the joint chief of staff? The guy that wanted to carry out terrorist attacks on American soil, and Cuba using Aeroplanes?

Kennedy did so.

American Christian preachers talk crap. Instead of all that nonsense, and for those who support bush. These people should attempt at moving to Ron Paul, he is the only real candidate who stands for that country.

What about the federal reserve, IRS, the CFR? UN, a tyrannical group that intends on destroying your country.

Its pathetic how some Christians may call Muslims terrorists, and that Islam is so Evil

Like with all religions they have a bad past. But considering that one in particular, it is a way of life, a strict way of life.

Yet, elections are distractions in one way, all these Republican candidates are saying Iran is building a weapon yet they aren't.

And lastly, I would liked to of seen an atheist running for president in the US, but that won't happen. Who ever it could be will have sins....ya right.
 
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Yeh the bay of pigs?

You don't think that was done by the CIA? And planned before he was inuguaragated, and then carried out, didn‘t he take the blame?
Yeah, invading Cuba was planned under Eisenhower, but Kennedy did put it into action.

The CIA doesn't act totally independently. Kennedy was not the fall guy or something.


American Christian preachers talk crap. Instead of all that nonsense, and for those who support bush.
American Christians, much less preachers, are hardly united in support of Bush. War-loving Fundies perhaps, but not all USAians are that.

These people should attempt at moving to Ron Paul, he is the only real candidate who stands for that country.
Yep, but we really need to get libertarians into the State and Federal legislatures before we worry about the Presidency. A Ron Paul Presidency could not do much without Congress behind it.

Who removed the joint chief of staff? The guy that wanted to carry out terrorist attacks on American soil, and Cuba using Aeroplanes?

Kennedy did so.
Yeah, not everything Kennedy did was bad.
 
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Instead of all that nonsense, and for those who support bush. These people should attempt at moving to Ron Paul, he is the only real candidate who stands for that country.


I knew that was coming! You Ronpaulians are so sneaky...
 
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Some people around here must be up tight, to report a post.

You'll take as you will won't you.

I don't like religious preachers, they don't speak the truth. They speak what some people want to hear, they intepret things as times change, so then what does it mean.

So in the end, it serves as only some kind of false hope.

Why did kennedy preach about world peace at the American university what was the point, how many other presidents bothered to talk about that?

I know he messed up in his personal life, I considered that wrong. I couldn't careless if he dropped religion.

Do you people believe in that love your neighbour stuff?

"JFK-peace and war" June 10, 1963, on youtube, I suggest you listen to it. I can't find the exact video.

"John F Kennedy - Fulfil the dream" this one has music in the background, and his assassination clip another images. I just avoided looking at it, it isn't as if I've seen much more nasty tat on tv.

The speech in some parts of it is a little out of date, but still applies today.

Ron Paul would need to pressure people into accepting the country's laws properly, that is how bad it is.

Even here in England, I think little of this religious Royal family. Church of England...oh yeah.

England should have its own government seperated from religion. That Queen has no clue about how people are trained up in the armed forces, they get treated like trash and then have to suck up outside the palace like dollies, linch pin traditions.

Bow to me you slaves, sooner this country gets rid of that monarchy the better, but then that isn't going to happen anytime soon.

I don't care about the front charities and all that, I think they could do more than that.
 
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It's the history of the world, powers struggle against one another and the innocent are caught in the middle. One power pulling back and refusing to participate does nothing but create a vacume into which after more conflict and strife another power asserts itself.

I understand and share peoples desire for peace, however I think I also have a slightly differant view of the world, a world that is all about struggle, always has been and to some extent always will be.

That doesn't mean things can't improve and that we can't struggle for greater accountability and transparency from government, greater freedom and opportunity for individuals.
 
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Our past never really grows away, still slowly things change and in the opinion of most I think for the better. Consider what life was like for the average person 250, 500, 5000 years ago... I shudder at the thought.

As it is obvious, the world isn't simple, just like the universe isn't.

The way you put it is as if, the old world won't go away.
 
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Question the fact that we were hit by a bunch of extremists who got very lucky. No. Question the fact that our government did everything in its power to prevent 9/11? Yes. Question the way this was spun and how it was used to justify an unrelated campaign in Iraq? Yes.
 
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