What do you think is there in the top of the pyramid?

A point. A point is at the top of the pyramid.

seeingeyes said:

Is that the food pyramid you were thinking of?

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No. And there isn't anything at the top of the food pyramid anymore.

A New Day said:

Thank you, how can the spirituality be there after the self actualization and the fulfillment?

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It is easy enough to see our relationship with the animals, and how our desires mimic their own desires. 'Survival of the fitness' and looking out for numero uno' are all statements that we can understand, not just at some level, but at some basic level.
But "I can't get no satisfaction' and 'man does not live by bread alone' echoes very strongly among us too. We are all too conscious and too self-aware to believe that bananas are sufficient reward for all the pain and suffering involved in the simple process of being human.

An understanding that we are created in the image of God, that our spiritual hunger us as just as pressing as our natural hunger, means that fulfillment ultimately requires a recognition that we are more than the most magnificent of all the beasts of the field.

If the composition of man is not just clay, but the very breath of God, self-actualization that is not even more spiritual than it is naturalis choosing to live one's life at a lower level of being, expecting that the material and social rewards that are sufficient to keep any monkey well satisfied and happy is enough for our own happiness too.

Self-actualization and fulfilment, and creativity even, are all expressions of our spiritual nature. They define a spiritual person as being more than just a, well, pointless point, as the jargon of this thread implies is at the top.

Clay is the created, but the breath of life which animates us is the breath of the Creator. The breath of life is the Holy Spirit himself.
We are not just clay, but Breath. we are not just created, but creators in our own right.

If the answer to life that a society gives to its members is 'More Bananas for Everyone!", one does not need to believe in nails in holy legs to be left feeling profoundly unsatisfied, profoundly unfulfilled. We become fulfilled in realzing our spiritual nature, and pouring out our own spiritual talents and gifts out onto the world around us-.

We do not just live to eat, or even jsut eat to live, but we eat to live a life that is in its essence, a spiritual one.

to build the foundation on necessity is to not build it upon the foundation of love and freedom. the pyramid will fall apart due to it existing in something that is not eternal. who cares what is at the top if the bottom is worthless compared to what it could be?

the reality of a complete and perfect sphere is much closer to what is on the top and bottom for me.

Flat tops.

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To grow the bananas on.



When people see the word "Self," they jump to conclusions. But compare creation, where God made creative choices, used His talents to define and form things, and spoke of fulfillment of His plan.

When we serve each other with practical actions and spiritual gifts, ideally we don't just give out, but we use creativity, talents, connectivity with God, concern for others... and find fulfillment in the expression. Knowing that we helped others is fulfilling.

Actualized.

So while the term self-actualization sounds selfish, at its best it is generosity and mindfulness of others. We don't need to lose our Self to be selfless.

to build the foundation on necessity is to not build it upon the foundation of love and freedom. the pyramid will fall apart due to it existing in something that is not eternal.

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Its gotta be to do with either moving away from self towards others or God. All the other levels are to do with self. Food and shelter are basic physical needs for your self. Belonging and self esteem are to do with your own feelings of acceptance and self worth which make you feel good. Self actualization is also about fulfilling your talents and becoming a complete person living to your potential. But what is missing is moving away from self and helping others. Letting go of self and making others as important as yourself. This is harder to do as it involves sacrifice. There is a spirituality about it as helping others is the highest form of love. I believe this is also associated with believing in God as this is the greatest commandment Jesus said.
Luke 10:27
He answered, "'Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your strength and with all your mind'; and, 'Love your neighbor as yourself.'"