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Boltwave

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Before I make any hasty conclusions that Jesus is no different from a radical terrorist, what on earth does he mean in this verse?

Luke 22:36

36He said to them, "But now if you have a purse, take it, and also a bag; and if you don't have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one.

Skeptics oftenly use these type of verses to fuel their arguements, I obviously understand the metaphorical rhetoric when Jesus said "'I have not come to bring peace, but to send a sword" as he was talking in terms of lawnessness and sin (i.e. battling with Satan) but exactly what does this verse in particular mean? I read further on and it still doesn't make much sense, it goes off like this:

Luke 22:37

37It is written: 'And he was numbered with the transgressors'; and I tell you that this must be fulfilled in me. Yes, what is written about me is reaching its fulfillment."

In Luke 22:35 Jesus asks:

35Then Jesus asked them, "When I sent you without purse, bag or sandals, did you lack anything?"
"Nothing," they answered.

I'm literally baffled to the connection in all of this.
 

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It as a call to be ready for hardship and self-sacrifice.

IF YOU REMEMBER, when Peter draws his sword and cuts of an ear in his zeal to prevent Jesus' imminent arrest in the Garden of Gethsemane, Jesus responds, "Put your sword back in its place, for all who draw the sword will die by the sword" (Matthew 26:51-52).


The most important sentence in this passage, however, isn't about swords. Jesus quotes Isaiah and applies the quotation directly to his own mission:
"It is written: 'And he was numbered with the transgressors'; and I tell you that this must be fulfilled in me.' Yes, what is written about me is reaching its fulfillment." (22:37)​
Jesus has been speaking about preparing for the dangers ahead for his disciples. For Jesus, the danger will end in death, in fulfillment of scripture. Jesus is quoting from the last verse of a wonderful passage in Isaiah 52:13 - 53:12 describing the redemptive ministry of the Suffering Servant who takes upon himself the sins of others. The full verse from which Jesus quotes reads:
"Therefore I will give him a portion among the great,
and he will divide the spoils with the strong,
because he poured out his life unto death,
and was numbered with the transgressors.
For he bore the sin of many,
and made intercession for the transgressors." (Isaiah 53:12)​
Jesus speaks to his disciples of a hostile world in which they are to spread the Gospel. Jesus dies alongside two thieves. But in his death he offers atonement and forgiveness: "Father, forgive them, for they don't know what they are doing" (Luke 23:34).

Dr. Ralph F. Wilson
 
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Christ is talking about His Church the Church millitant
which are His cristians on earth fighting for His Church.
Ron
 
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when a disciple showed him a sword, Jesus says "that is enough" Luke 22:38. I believe Jesus was getting annoyed even that they still were not understanding him by then that He is surely not always literal. I believe Jesus does not mean to literally take up a sword for most part, it is spiritual. sometimes the bible refers to Jesus' word as a sword. I also believe His word here can be used in other encouragements christians need, He does speak to us through His word and gives us more understanding as we need it. But that is not to say Jesus will never literally mean take up a sword, Revelation talks about battles and things, but I don't believe that is needed until Revelation times, Jesus says things like "turn the other cheek" at this time.

You need the HOly Spirit to really understand Jesus, without His help, the Bible is not going to do much sense. You need to have the spirit that is open to God and Truth, then He will show these spiritual things.
 
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Jesus is talking to His Disciples. Prior to this, He instructed them to be completely dependent on the people they were staying with. See Luke 9:3-4.

Now...Jesus is getting ready for his arrest and subsequent death on the cross. He knows that His disciples are going to be in physical danger, because they are "followers" of Jesus.
Jesus is preparing them to be more independent....
 
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MY FRIEND,

The article below from "HARD SAYINGS OF THE BIBLE" by William C. Kaiser Jr., et. al., helped me understand this teaching. Sorry the quote is so long.
A BOND-SLAVE OF CHRIST,
ephraim
 
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It's about Jesus equipping us, for every good work!

HE is the one who supplies are needs, and He gave us comfort in that, while we have little resources, He is still able to supply.

It's also about being filled with the Holy Spirit, in that Jesus is talking about clothing..
 
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I see.....it's starting to make some sense now.
 
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I wish I knew why christians do this. Jesus was sanctioning self-defense, even by violence if necessary. There is nothing in the N.T. which nullifies this O.T. principle. There is nothing more unloving than letting your enemy murder your innocent neighbor. Such a thing is evil in God's eyes. This passage should be read in a normal straightforward way. There tendency on the part of many christians to allegorize any passage that goes against their theology. Pacifism is nowhere taught in the New Testament.
 
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