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What are the Weaknesses of Evolution?

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ENominiPatri

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So we're not smarter than when the only tools we had were used to smash open nuts? A nuclear warhead is no more complicated than a flint axe? Face it we're getting smarter. We're also getting greedy and selfish, but smarter.

The only reason we got "smarter" is because we learned how to record information.
 
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but how do psychologist help not everybody goesd to those people. and psychologist are normally the people that need the help. And how can somebody be a philosopher of mind when they and us as humans dont even know how the human brain operates properly as if we did we would be using 100% of it not 10% of it.

Then we would have things that you wouldnt be able to inagine.
 
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The 10% story is a myth.
 
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What does any of this have to do with the origins of thought?
 
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How do you kow if the [d]og has a GOD or not have you ever been in a dogs mind or thoughts? NO so you cannot make such harsh conclusions for somehting you dont know.

We don't know what a dog is truly thinking. In fact, we can not truly experinece the thoughts of our fellow human beings. However, I don't know of one neurologist who thinks that something other than the central nervous system is producing thought.

Humans have a very large brain for their size. Chimps also have a very large brain for their size when you compare them to other mammals. Mammals have very large brains when compared to other vertebrates. At each level we see a direct correlation between independent problem solving and brain size. It would seem elementary that human thought capacity is due to our larger brains which we evolved over time.


I doubt dogs are as smart as we are. They do not display the same level of problem solving skills that we do, even when they are amply rewarded for proper behavior.

Dogs have there own way of communication, they bark, and so how do humans know what they are saying.

Dogs are much more attune to body posture and scent.

And you didnt answer my quesion how do you (evolutionists) explain thought?

The evolution of a bigger brain. More neurons equal more mental horsepower, if you will.
 
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1) The very concept of "junk" DNA.
Evidence shows that, with some exceptions noted below, the more complex the organism, the more non-coding DNA it has. Scientist were so convinced that it served no purpose that even now it is referred to as junk DNA, and this conviction was so strong that one guy was allowed to patent the entire lot. Bacteria contain little non coding DNA, their genomes are wall to wall genes. By the time you get to Drosophila melanogaster (fruit fly) its about 15% junk. For humans it's about 98% junk.

The ToE says that mutations happen at random and are then fixed if they confer selective advantage. The ToE says nothing about organisms hauling about great piles of useless material in their genomes.

Even worse, recent evidence shows that most of this junk is transcribed into RNA. Not only are we carrying this rubbish around, we are wasting precious resources copying it into more rubbish.

Why is it so?

On a related point, the puffer fish has lost most of its non-codong DNA, it is, nevertheless, a fully functioning higher organism. Scientists look at theis bacteria-like chromosome and eagerly discuss how we will earn so much about human genes because of the conservation.

Why is no-one talking about the elephant in the room? The fish clearly shows that the junk DNA is not needed, so what possible evolutionary mechanism explains why we have retained it?
 
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Even worse, recent evidence shows that most of this junk is transcribed into RNA. Not only are we carrying this rubbish around, we are wasting precious resources copying it into more rubbish.

Why is no-one talking about the elephant in the room? The fish clearly shows that the junk DNA is not needed, so what possible evolutionary mechanism explains why we have retained it?



Because it is SOOOOO much easier for evolutionists to call it all "unnecessary junk", than it is to attempt to explain it.
 
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Non-coding DNA is not necessarily "junk" because a lot of it is used to regulate coding DNA. Proteins will bind to sections of non-coding DNA (which are "recognized" by their sequences). This will can then inhibit or allow the transcription proteins from forming transcribing the DNA into RNA.

In other words, much of the "junk" is what turns genes on and off.

Frankly, though, I don't really know much about why the pufferfish genome has little non-coding DNA (assuming what you say true).
 
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Because it is SOOOOO much easier for evolutionists to call it all "unnecessary junk", than it is to attempt to explain it.

You are about the last poster who should be laughing based upon the posts I remember you making in the News & Current Event forum a few weeks ago.
 
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You are about the last poster who should be laughing based upon the posts I remember you making in the News & Current Event forum a few weeks ago.

Oh really?

Are you still referring to my quotes from Dr. Roger Penrose of Oxford?

I wonder Kerr, have you read a book since then?

Perhaps looked anything that I said,.... up?

Or rather, as in post #112 have you simply decided that a pompous, arrogant attitude will defeat logic on this internet forum, without the need to introduce facts?
 
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Oh really?

Yep really!!!!

Are you still referring to my quotes from Dr. Roger Penrose of Oxford?
You quoted Penrose without realising what he was really calculating.
I wonder Kerr, have you read a book since then?
Quite a few - in fact you could say a large part of my job is professional reader.
Perhaps looked anything that I said,.... up?
Didn't need to - I already was familiar with the usual creationist claptrap.

And I remember your silliness about the Earth's orbital parameters. You were just regurgitating some nonsense you had read without giving it any thought or investigation.
 
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It is not much - the number seems to be in the single digit percentage range.

That's not the only explanation for junk DNA; it was just the only one that I knew off the top of my head.

Some more explanations are in links from the wikipedia article. That being said, there is still a lot of "junk" DNA that is unaccounted for.
 
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That's not the only explanation for junk DNA; it was just the only one that I knew off the top of my head.

Some more explanations are in links from the wikipedia article. That being said, there is still a lot of "junk" DNA that is unaccounted for.

My number is if I recall the estimated percentage of "junk DNA" that has any use.
 
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This is a strange turn of events. It is normally the creationist that argues that junk DNA actually has a function, not the other way around. Usually the evolutionist points to junk DNA as left over DNA from genes not longer used (since we have no method of removing DNA) and creationists object that the junk DNA does have a fuction, or at least we haven't completly ruled out that it does yet. Otherwise, they are left to explain why God created us with all of this non-fuctional DNA.

But all of that aside, why does junk DNA (assuming MOST of it doesn't have a purpose as the original poster suggested) falsify evolution? Does it in some way falsify common ancestry? The reason we have it seems quite clear. When we reproduce, even if a gene has mutuated and is now non fuctioning (like the chicken gene to make teeth), the sex cells have no way to remove the non-functioning DNA, so it is carried on forever, with more and more mutation holes been punched into it since they do not harm the organism. Indeed, these genes fit a nested hierchy pattern and are the best evidence for reconstructing common ancestry.
 
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On the topic of junk DNA, it has had many lives in genetics. The term was first used to describe pseudogenes, such as the vitamin C pseudogene found in chimps and humans. For all intents and purposes, junk DNA is probably a good description for relatively unprocessed pseudogenes. Over time the term "junk DNA" was used to describe all non-protein coding DNA which is probably incorrect. Non-coding DNA can have and does have regulatory functions, even if this function is unrelated to sequence.

However, one can remove large portions of junk DNA without any visible effects on the organism, which they did in this study:

 
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