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"Because thou hast hearkened unto the (nagging) voice of thy wife,......"
See Genesis 3:17.
 
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Well, it's not essential to know, it is really our own vanity to have to know how everything came to be, be it religious oriented or scientifically oriented... It does tend to pull us away and distract us from matters that we maybe should maybe be focusing on more anyway, especially now, considering the nature and condition of our world right now...

I would like to say though that I wonder why it is that there are plenty of fossils for various different kinds of a particular kind of animal, different breeds and species, but hardly any "transitional" ones that would show and prove how a say a fish, or sea serpent, became an amphibian, or an amphibian became a reptile, so on and so forth... There's plenty in the fossil record of different "kinds of a kind", but hardly any, or next to none, of how one kind, became another kind... And, in Genesis it says that God created or made, each one according to it's "kind"... Strange to me...?

Wonder why that is...?

God Bless!
 
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Because the Creationist propaganda mills you're getting this stuff from aren't showing them to you? Never mind, even "hardly any" is enough to disprove "kinds." You don't even have any scriptural justification for the notion that "kinds" are meant to represent an immutable divine taxonomic barrier that evolution can never cross.
 
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Eh? Don't you think that people could count in biblical times?

Not to a thousand, most of them, their thousand was to their comprehension, like our trillion today... We might hear of like, say, a "trillion dollar debt" and we know that is a lot, and we can understand that that is a lot, but most of can't count to it or comprehend what a trillion of something would be like, and most of us can't quantify it in our heads mathematically, except for a select few... It was kinda like that for them...

Can you show us where it says that please?

(2 Peter 3:8) "But, beloved, do not forget this one thing, that with the Lord one day is as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day."

(Psalm 84:10) "For a day in Your courts is better than a thousand (here, in these courts). I would rather be a doorkeeper in the house of my God Than dwell in the tents of wickedness." (In other words a day there is better or more than a thousand (years, if you take into account a "day for a year") better or more than a thousand here)

One of God's days is an age, an era...

Not at all, I don't think God knows anything as I don't believe he actually exists.

Why not...?
 
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You could just provide me with some evidence to prove me wrong you know...? I was just wondering why I haven't seen any in all the threads talking about evolution here, is all, do you have evidence of transitional fossils from the fossil record...?

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I suggest taking an introductory course in Paleontology to begin understanding the concepts through which transitional connections are made. It is not a mater of "well this seems to look like this and, etc...." It is quite specific in relation anatomical connections. However, the way I understand evolution best is to view the fossil record in geologic strata. How did all those fossils get distributed as to represent evolution?
 
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Oh, yes, of course. In fact, only God has the ability to inspire and direct the folly of men, that His word will not return void...this is the power and providence of God.
 
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I think you are confusing scientific theory with the common use of the word.

If one tries to explain the world with a theory then the only proper definition of that word is the scientific one. Otherwise it is better to say "I have this wild and crazy idea that is not supported by reality at all".
 
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Exactly, creationists have no explanation for the fossil record at all. In fact many of them try to deny the obvious by claiming that there is no fossil record.
 
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Check out this video! Will help fill in some the gaps you have about fossils.
 
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I believe he literally went (or made the "transition" that I talked about), that he literally made the transition from the physical to the spiritual when he was resurrected...? Are you talking about that...?

God Bless!

I've recently wondered where Jesus' physical resurrected body went. It says he ascended into the clouds, but where to? I think the answer is hidden, until he returns, but His Spirit lives in the believer and one could view His body as the church or body of Christ. So in reality, He is still here making all things new, working in us and through us.
 
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I've wondered that too, but at the end of the day, well, he ended up like the rest of humanity... worm food.
 
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If one tries to explain the world with a theory then the only proper definition of that word is the scientific one. Otherwise it is better to say "I have this wild and crazy idea that is not supported by reality at all".

Gap theory is supported by reality. It proposes an old earth, and voila, science confirms that the earth is indeed old. Science doesn't refute bible history, it confirms it, and will continue to do so as it becomes more apparent that the creation was indeed created.
 
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Which verse confirms human evolution?
 
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Doesn't Gap theory pertain only to the area between Gen:1:1 and 1:2, thus the rest of Gen 1:3 forward is literal? Just need clarification.
 
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Which verse confirms human evolution?

None. It's like this.

An old black gentleman in a southern state some years ago went to register to vote. The white poll worker gave him an application form to fill out..........written in Hebrew. When asked if he understood it the old gentleman replied, "I understands it real good. It says here that us black folks won't be votin' agin' this year."
 
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Doesn't Gap theory pertain only to the area between Gen:1:1 and 1:2, thus the rest of Gen 1:3 forward is literal? Just need clarification.

It does, and we get to fill in the events between those verses. I like to start with Jude 1:6. I believe the earth was made originally for the angels. The re-creation of Gen 1:2 onward is the earth renewed for man. If I had composed Genesis it would look like this:

In the Beginning God created the Heavens and the Earth.

But the earth became an empty wasteland.


What follows is the restoration of the surface of the earth for Man.


 
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Then how do you explain grass and fruit trees before the sun?
 
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Ah, so science does refute bible history.

Science provides more evidence for creation than for evolution. They just don't realize it, yet.
 
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