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Maryslittleflower

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Hi, there's a big difference between the pagan idea of idols as mediums and the Catholic idea. In the Catholic understanding, it's like the Church is a family and it's on earth as well as in Heaven. They help us by praying. Latria is different from hyperdulia not only in name but that latria is adoration, and hyperdulia is very great respect. Worship (more properly termed adoration, as in old documents worship was just a word for any respect even for an earthly leader) - needs to be understood properly. It's not just singing worship songs or kneeling. We can kneel simply as a prayer position. Adoration is something proper to God alone and according to Catholic Encylopedia it's "an act of religion offered to God in acknowledgment of His supreme perfection and dominion, and of the creature's dependence upon Him."


I see you have done research but there's more to this. We can't take quotes in isolation. The Church has always taught about invincible ignorance for instance. In the case of invincible ignorance, those people are not externally Catholic but they are not willfully separated from the Church, because they haven't chosen this, and that fits in with the first quote you provided. Vatican II also talks about invincible ignorance but that's NOT a new teaching, it's a traditional teaching that was around before that. They go together.

As for "unbiblical doctrines", - the Bible itself says to follow what the Apostles said in word OR letter. That means in the Bible or in Tradition. In the beginning the Bible didn't exist yet. The early Church was not "sola Scriptura".

Your concerns with Protestantism I understand. I was Protestant before I was Catholic and there's no unity in Protestantism. There's no way to tell whose interpretation of the Bible is correct. That's actualy why Catholics have the Pope, the Magisterium, Councils, etc - because God guides the Church how to interpret the Scriptures. It's not a human institution, it's the Body of Christ on earth. It is not only invisible. The Holy Spirit guides it and it has a structure and a hierarchy. We can see this in the early Church too. St Irenaeus, who died in 202 AD, so very early on, said that he knows he's in the true Church because of Apostolic Succession.

God bless you
 
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My view is follow Jesus read the gospels meditate on God and seek the holy spirit. Then walk in love and light help the poor and weak try your best to be kind and gentle. No religion or group can bring you peace only Christ. Just my view.
 
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Follow Jesus out of your own free will because as you stated before about salvation that seemed to be your strongest point towards establishing true religion. True religion as you also stated above deals with God never leaving and forsaking you but staying true as one of his holy people. When God recognizes you for a rightful and faithful servant he will continue to use you for greater things. This statement that you had about eternal salvation outweighed your other arguments especially since in your last few statement you stated that an orthodox religion about uncertainty of baptism and your ethnic background would be a problem.
 
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And you are not the only one apparently. As Catholicism represents the foolness of truth in Christianity, I am highly perturbed by your stance on this.
Uh, did you mean to type what you posted here?
 
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