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Would you say that "Wisdom" is the Holy Spirit?Where in the Bible is SHE used of the Holy Spirit?
Where in the Bible is MOTHER used of the Holy Spirit?
GOD IS SPIRIT. the Spirit is GOD.
1 Cor 12:11 "HE"
& the verse used by Telrunya below calls the Spirit, "He"... not She or Mother.
Please adhere to scripture rather than what man might wrongly teach.
No. You are obviously refering to the Psalms and references of wisdom as a woman. That is a prime example of biblical allagory and is not literal. The Holy Spirit is not wisdom. The Holy Spirit is comforter and councilor. No where does the Bible refer to the Holy Spirit as wisdom or as a female. Also the Holy Spirit was not given to us until after Jesus. The Psalms were written long before Jesus' timeWould you say that "Wisdom" is the Holy Spirit?
Would you say that "Wisdom" is the Holy Spirit?
Because king Jeconiah was so bad God put a stop to the (seed) or (bloodline) which could inherit King Davids throne. In essence the geneology of Matthew - Birthright to the Messiah being King was cut off at Jeconiah.Matt. 1 shews that Joseph was of the cursed lineage of Jeconiah ("Coniah"):-
[28] Is this man Coniah a despised broken idol? is he a vessel wherein is no pleasure? Wherefore are they cast out, he and his seed, and are cast into a land which they know not? [29] O earth, earth, earth, hear the word of the LORD. [30] Thus saith the LORD, Write ye this man childless, a man that shall not prosper in his days: for no man of his seed shall prosper, sitting upon the throne of David, and ruling any more in Judah. (KJV)
Therefore Jesus must have been of a virgin birth.
Mary was of a different lineage of David, a lowly branch - through Nathan rather than Solomon.
God said this throne would remain until Jesus returns to lake it up when he comes to rule the earth.
This throne has not been in Jerusalem since the House of Judah were taken captive in the 7th Century BC.
It is now found, along with the gathered tribes in Britian (Heb. Berith-ain: covenant land). Queen Elizabeth II is the current monarch.
http://www.revivalfellowship.org/British_Israel.asphttp://www.revivalfellowship.org
And who would you say "Truth" was?No, I wouldn't. Because the Spirit is GOD, and has a MIND, WILL AND EMOTIONS.
He is NOT a "thing" or "she/mother", but a person of the Trinity.
I think you're using the Proverbs [8] poetry to arrive at this. Wisdom is personified and relaying the divine origin of wisdom in ch. 8 & 9. But when you read 9:10, it says "fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom" and the knowledge of the Holy one is understanding." If the Holy Spirit is "wisdom", then one of the other of the Trinity have to be "understanding" there.
8:22 "The Lord posessed me at the beginning of His way" That doesn't make sense if it's the Spirit because God doesn't "posess" Himself.
Verse 12 becomes a problem as well: "I wisdom dwell with prudence". If the Spirit is "wisdom" then who is "Prudence"?
Wisdom is of God and God used wisdom in Creating and His principles are all Wise... it originates with God. It dwelled with God from the beginning. He possesses it and is the AUTHOR of it.
Do you understand why Jesus can't have been of Joseph, so Mary must have been a Virgin for the scripture to be fulfilled ?must have been?
Matt. 1 shews that Joseph was of the cursed lineage of Jeconiah ("Coniah"):-
[28] Is this man Coniah a despised broken idol? is he a vessel wherein is no pleasure? Wherefore are they cast out, he and his seed, and are cast into a land which they know not? [29] O earth, earth, earth, hear the word of the LORD. [30] Thus saith the LORD, Write ye this man childless, a man that shall not prosper in his days: for no man of his seed shall prosper, sitting upon the throne of David, and ruling any more in Judah. (KJV)
Therefore Jesus must have been of a virgin birth.
Mary was of a different lineage of David, a lowly branch - through Nathan rather than Solomon.
God said this throne would remain until Jesus returns to lake it up when he comes to rule the earth.
This throne has not been in Jerusalem since the House of Judah were taken captive in the 7th Century BC.
It is now found, along with the gathered tribes in Britian (Heb. Berith-ain: covenant land). Queen Elizabeth II is the current monarch.
http://www.revivalfellowship.org/British_Israel.asphttp://www.revivalfellowship.org
I believe this is correct. Jesus' Mother was also of the House of David.The gospel of Matthew opens with two thoughts:
1.) Jesus is the son of David
2.) Jesus is the son of Abraham
The point? He is the Messiah ... the annointed one -- the king of Israel promised in the O.T. that would descend from David. See 2 Samuel 7:12-17. And, Jesus was the "seed" or "blessing" promised to Abraham that would bless all families of the earth. See Genesis 12:3 and Acts 3:25-26.
My understanding is that Matthew's lineage is the legal lineage that comes through Joseph, and that Luke's lineage is the bloodline through Mary.
See also Acts 2:22-36 and Romans 1:3-4.
I believe this is correct. Jesus' Mother was also of the House of David.
Do not get me wrong...I have just been wondering...maybe satan is whispering in my ear...Wasn't Jesus suppose to be from Davids lineage...He cannot be if he was created by God...Joseph was Davids lineage not Mary's...Don't make me feel bad about wondering this...I feel like I am talking against God and Jesus, when I am really trying to understand this....
Many people are born like this, naturally Jesus was no different, he needed to be anointed by the Holy Spirit to be super-natural.. . .for Christ was born un-blemished, and perfect.
God the Holy Spirit was needed to impute sinlessness into the unborn child of Christ (through Mary), for Christ was born un-blemished, and perfect.
He didn't need Mary for that, since Jesus was conceived of the Holy Spirit in the first place. He needed Mary for her lineage, her virginity, and her faith. It would not have been that difficult to find another virgin from the line of David had she been uncooperative.Mary was from the line of David, which is from the line of Abraham. Christ IS from the Line of David, through the physical birth of Mary. God the Holy Spirit was needed to impute sinlessness into the unborn child of Christ (through Mary), for Christ was born un-blemished, and perfect.
Many people are born like this, naturally Jesus was no different, he needed to be anointed by the Holy Spirit to be super-natural.
I am quite aware of that, BUT that was not the question that was asked.He didn't need Mary for that, since Jesus was conceived of the Holy Spirit in the first place. He needed Mary for her lineage, her virginity, and her faith. It would not have been that difficult to find another virgin from the line of David had she been uncooperative.
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