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LutheranHawkeye

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I just read the post on here where Vle045 stated that she would play the "devil's advocate" for awhile on the issue of abortion. Basically what I saw disgusted me. It got twisted and turned into an attack on her because all she wanted to say was that a Christian can be pro-choice and still be Christian. I may only be 19 and I've posted many hurtful things on here, but I have NEVER driven someone away from these forums. I'm ashamed at the way the WELS and LCMS members acted towards her. So being a confessional Lutheran isn't enough? We have to be Republican too? I have considered myself Republican for a long time, but frankly I'm tired of having to vote for terrible leaders because they are pro-life. I'm over it. Do you really want the confessional Lutheran churches to turn into just another evangelical denomination? Most of the people on that post could mark Republican as their religion. Sad, that was me once. Anyway Vle I'm sorry for everything that happened to you on this forum, you definitley did not deserve what happened to you. Godbless you.
 

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You are tired of voting for terrible Republicans? You are only 19, which means you have been voting for all of one year.

Anyway, abortion is wrong. We don't tip toe around in here to 'keep' others from leaving. What God's Word says, is what God's Word says. Plain and simple.

Several of us asked her to stay. No one told her to leave. She didn't hear what she wanted to hear. That is the truth of it.
 
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This is true. We do not compromise God's word for the sake of "filling the pews" so-to-speak. That's what the ELCA and other liberal churces do.

And I still don't understand how a Confessional Lutheran can be pro-murder.
 
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This is true. We do not compromise God's word for the sake of "filling the pews" so-to-speak. That's what the ELCA and other liberal churces do.

And I still don't understand how a Confessional Lutheran can be pro-murder.
You'd rather push people away who are looking for the Truth? I am pro-life aswell, but in that post Preacher's wife said that you cannot be a Christian and be pro-choice, and not one person argued otherwise. Christ died for all. Or did Christ only die for Confessional Lutherans?
 
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What are you hoping to gain from your questions? That you are a nicer guy than the rest of us?

We aren't going to change our minds on how we feel about abortion, because God doesn't change.

She stated she was playing devil's advocate, but that is not what she did.

Give it up, Nordic.
 
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If someone is going to post their position on an issue, they should be willing to accept that others will do the same. God's laws are black and white. There are no grey areas no matter how many other denominations might present them in order to fill stadium seats.

I didn't see any disrespectful posts, only a VISITOR to the Confessional sub-forum who couldn't handle the debate she got herself into. Liberal thinking and reliance on social policy for what might be right or wrong is a slippery slope for a Christian. Christians are in this world, but not supposed to of this world, remember?
 
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What she said above....

Mark
 
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I'm sorry the truth disgusts you.
 
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Here are quotes from the LCMS and WELS sites on the stances of the two synods respectively.

Since this is a sub-forum which is protected by our guidelines that does not accept debate (that is for the main TCL forum), her posts were careless and disrespectful to the members here in this forum.


 
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You are right. Thanks for openining my eyes. Like I have stated before I am pro-life, I just had no idea most people on here believe that if someone is Christian and pro-choice that they are going to hell. Sorry I brought it up everyone. I read the first couple of pages and assumed that's how the whole thread went, I was wrong. Sorry for the misunderstanding.
 
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Wait wait wait..people are saying if you're pro-choice that's a free ticket to hell!? That doesn't seem quite scriptural to me..not that I could rationalize one claiming to be a brother and yet being in support of the over 46,000,000 abortions that have LEGALLY taken place..but still..
 
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Not a big deal, Nordic. We've all been there.
I don't think any of us believe we know who is and isn't going to hell. Rather, the point folks were trying to make to her was that all life is precious and it is contradictory for any Christian to believe or profess otherwise on the issue of abortion.

Don't you think it breaks God's heart that those He's knitting are ripped apart and discarded as inconvenient waste? Should we not speak out against it for the horrible act that it is, when confronted with someone defending such horror? If you've never seen photos of aborted fetuses, you're fortunate.
 
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On a related note, for any Wisconsinite out there, the Pro-Choice activists are trying to repeal the state-wide ban on abortion. Obviously the ban was nullified by Roe v. Wade, but when Roe is overturned by the Supreme Court the ban would be back in effect.

If you live in Wisconsin, you should email your state senators and congressmen immediately reflecting your opinions..
 
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