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Professionals built this bridge:The professionals who built the bridge. The one who performed your last medical procedure. The guy who flew the plane you were in.
Are you saying you didn't trust any of them?
Professionals built this bridge:
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This doctor was a professional (had to be to get their license):
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And professionals built this airplane:
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Meh... everyone makes mistakes.
But some of those mistakes are assuming "professionals" don't.
Things I wonder about. Do people that are for the vaccines appreciate that many not willing to take one they may be just absolutely terrified or traumatized to do so and maybe the stress of taking one might just be more than they can bear? Not founded on good science? Maybe, maybe not but that's not the issue. The reality may be they feel they just can't. Does that make them bad, evil people ones who are to be hated and despised?
Didn't say that either. But neither do I automatically or implicitly trust all of them - which I think quite reasonable, don't you?Then I guess that you've never had a medical procedure or flown in a plane or driven over a bridge. Especially with all those examples of people messing up.
Ahhh - to the heart of the matter then.But the real question is - why did you waste your time digging up three pictures that not only wasted your time in finding them but mine in having to respond to them. It's a waste of good bandwidth. Put some cute puppies up next time.
Perhaps true but such doesn't mean they're not terrified and afraid. So are they bad, selfish, mean people because they cant seem to get over it?I think that most people could appreciate that, but the problem is that for many of the folks who claim that's their reasoning behind opposition, it's not consistent.
For instance,
If it's a case of just not knowing information about it, then simply providing information would do the trick, but more often than not, you'll end up getting responses along the lines of "that information doesn't count, because they're in on the conspiracy"
IE: they'll be dismissive of numerous peer reviewed studies and clinical trial results as "not being good enough",
If the side effects are a major concern for them...it's well documented what the common (and serious) side effects of those drugs are.
https://www.rxlist.com/stromectol-side-effects-drug-center.htm
I find a lot of irony in people I know who won't get vaccinated because "there's not enough data", or they're not "FDA approved", or whatever other reasons they have. These people will unquestionably take homeopathic or herbal supplements for health ailments rather than "big pharma" medicine. The irony is these supplements are NOT approved by the FDA, do not have hundreds of millions of test subjects to collect effectiveness data on, and - worst of all - are made by companies who expect to make a profit from their products.
The rejection of hydroxychloroquine wasn't because people hated Trump, but because it's an ineffective and unsafe drug. HCQ has a string of serious side effects.
But the virus does not care what you or I believe.I have zero confidence in government, media, and those political puppets who speak for science…..and in turn are responsible for the development of this virus.
But do you have a right to put the rest of us at risk by refusing a safe, effective vaccine against a virus that is so contagious, you can catch by just looking at someone.I am perfectly within my right as a sovereign human to seem and be "crazy" by layperson standards.
But that is, frankly, wildly incorrect thinking.They believe and think it's more safe to risk getting covid especially when they believe they have a 95-99 % chance of survival anyway...if they get it.
Several problems with this. First, and one encounters this all the time with the anti-vaxxers, this is not all about you.But, what are the actual RISKs involved here? We've been over all the stats numerous times. In the US, for example, the number of people that have died from Covid is less than 0.2% of the entire population. Some 600k out of 330m (give or take). 1 in 550 people. And the number of people who have contracted the disease is about 6x that, about 35m. Call it 10%. So the risk of dying IF you catch the virus is less than 2%.
Reverse those stats now. Nearly 90% of the American population hasn't even contracted the virus. And roughly 99.8% have not died from it.
Paranoid? Seriously, given those stats, who is the more likely to be paranoid here?
Where do people keep coming up with this stuff - stuff that I've never said but they nevertheless assume I did?Several problems with this. First, and one encounters this all the time with the anti-vaxxers, this is not all about you.
Pfft. And I was the one accused of being paranoid.Even if your risk of dying is low, if everyone thought like you and eschewed the vaccine, the disease would spike wildly, hospitals would be overrun, and patients with other illnesses would be put on hold. Many would die needlessly for lack of access to care.
Not good, not good.
First, let's take care of that little detail. I'll see if I can explain it... again.Second your analysis fails to account for what will happen going forward. I am not sure where you get the figure that 90% have not contracted the virus. I believe the figure is much lower. But let's say it's 90%.
You trust absolutely correctly.I trust you realize that, without vaccination, it would only be a matter of time before you get covid. And it will be a much shorter time, the more people who think as you do.
It was very reasonable for a reader to infer that you were looking at this matter from a "how does this affect me" perspective. My point is that even any individual's risk from the virus is low, there are still huge problems - not least the overwhelming of the healthcare system - that would arise if substantial numbers of people adopted your view. Your analysis was entirely silent on this very critical matter.Where do people keep coming up with this stuff - stuff that I've never said but they nevertheless assume I did?
It is difficult for me, and I suspect others, to believe you are unaware that, around the the world, health care systems have, at times of surges, been overwhelmed by Covid case counts - people in India have been dying in the streets since they cannot find a hospital bed!! Even in the most advanced nations, the health care infrastructure has been taxed to the breaking point with surgeries delayed and lives likely lost as a result. Now in these countries, the authorities have wisely instituted lockdowns when this happens. But make no mistake, unless you are willing to live under lockdown, widespread vaccine refusal will overload the health care system.[/QUOTE]Pfft. And I was the one accused of being paranoid.
(but I do like the word "eschewed")
With the slight difference that you'd have to drive 2 hours a day, 5 days a week for about 2000 years to have a 50% chance of dying in a car accident, while in the absence of a vaccine you'd likely be infected with SARS-CoV-2 within a couple of years.And it's fairly certain that if I drive my car 2 hours a day 5 days a week forever, it'd be only a matter of time before I'd get into a car wreck and die.
And not to mention that driving a car results in some tangible benefit that outweigh the risks involved. Whereas the benefit to not getting the vaccine is....?With the slight difference that you'd have to drive 2 hours a day, 5 days a week for about 2000 years to have a 50% chance of dying in a car accident, while in the absence of a vaccine you'd likely be infected with SARS-CoV-2 within a couple of years.
And not to mention that driving a car results in some tangible benefit that outweigh the risks involved. Whereas the benefit to not getting the vaccine is....?
You also get to show how incredibly big your trust in your diety of choice is.Virtue signaling to other conspiracy-minded folks.
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