Unsaveable?

Hello and welcome to CF

unsaveable said:

Yep, thats me.
I'm not a nice person.
I do bad things. I hurt myself and others.
Sometimes I do it on purpose, sometimes not.
But I can't change. No meds will do it. Nothing will.
So basically, I'm going to hell.
I've read the Bible. Been told to love Jesus and accept him as my personal saviour, or whatever. It kind of seemed right and nice...when I was about 7 years old. Now I just don't care anymore.
This ugly planet, with ugly people. It's always been ugly. War, famine, murder, hate - it just goes on and on.
That's why I got myself 'fixed' so I can't have kids. Who would want to have kids? Bringing another life into this world. It's a horrible thing to do.
So yeah, I'm pretty much a lost cause.
It's my life, and I'll do what I want with it. I don't have a choice coz god hardens my heart more everday like he says he will (somewhere in Romans, IIRC).
I bet youre glad youre not me.

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Ok, given your only question "am I glad I am not you?"

How do you know I was not you.. about 20 years ago?

Hope you enjoy your time here at CF.

God Bless

Key

unsaveable said:

Yep, thats me.
I'm not a nice person.
I do bad things. I hurt myself and others.
Sometimes I do it on purpose, sometimes not.
But I can't change. No meds will do it. Nothing will.
So basically, I'm going to hell.
I've read the Bible. Been told to love Jesus and accept him as my personal saviour, or whatever. It kind of seemed right and nice...when I was about 7 years old. Now I just don't care anymore.
This ugly planet, with ugly people. It's always been ugly. War, famine, murder, hate - it just goes on and on.
That's why I got myself 'fixed' so I can't have kids. Who would want to have kids? Bringing another life into this world. It's a horrible thing to do.
So yeah, I'm pretty much a lost cause.
It's my life, and I'll do what I want with it. I don't have a choice coz god hardens my heart more everday like he says he will (somewhere in Romans, IIRC).
I bet youre glad youre not me.

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You were made in the image of God

unsaveable said:

Yep, thats me.
I'm not a nice person.

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You think I am?

I do bad things. I hurt myself and others.

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Any you think I don't?

Sometimes I do it on purpose, sometimes not.
But I can't change. No meds will do it. Nothing will.

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That is where you are wrong. There is the Way to change, and His name is Jesus.

So basically, I'm going to hell.

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Are you happy about that? You're not meant to be in hell, you know.

I've read the Bible. Been told to love Jesus and accept him as my personal saviour, or whatever. It kind of seemed right and nice...when I was about 7 years old. Now I just don't care anymore.

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That is because you went through the motions and did not actually have a friendship with God. I can see that just by how you wrote your sentence.

This ugly planet, with ugly people. It's always been ugly.

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It hasn't always, and it won't always be.

War, famine, murder, hate - it just goes on and on.
That's why I got myself 'fixed' so I can't have kids. Who would want to have kids? Bringing another life into this world. It's a horrible thing to do.

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So we'll just let the human race die out, then. That makes sense. It's not a horrible thing to do, and I plan on it one day.

So yeah, I'm pretty much a lost cause.

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And you obviously don't care.

It's my life, and I'll do what I want with it.

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And there it is!

I don't have a choice coz god hardens my heart more everday like he says he will (somewhere in Romans, IIRC).
I bet youre glad youre not me.

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You do have a choice, you just don't feel like doing anything to change.

You're not getting a pity party from me, because I was you two years ago. So go complain to God, because once again, I will give you no pity. No one can help you if you won't try to change.

unsaveable said:

Yep, thats me.
I'm not a nice person.
I do bad things. I hurt myself and others.
Sometimes I do it on purpose, sometimes not.
But I can't change. No meds will do it. Nothing will.
So basically, I'm going to hell.
I've read the Bible. Been told to love Jesus and accept him as my personal saviour, or whatever. It kind of seemed right and nice...when I was about 7 years old. Now I just don't care anymore.
This ugly planet, with ugly people. It's always been ugly. War, famine, murder, hate - it just goes on and on.
That's why I got myself 'fixed' so I can't have kids. Who would want to have kids? Bringing another life into this world. It's a horrible thing to do.
So yeah, I'm pretty much a lost cause.
It's my life, and I'll do what I want with it. I don't have a choice coz god hardens my heart more everday like he says he will (somewhere in Romans, IIRC).
I bet youre glad youre not me.

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I doubt you are unsaveable.. If you weren't saveable, then I would have been gone a long time ago and gone to other things. I understand how the world is. and I hate it too. I hate people, I hate everything! The bitterness from the pain of the things I have had to endure has finally caught up with me... Back into the stage where I listen to nothing but lies.. The things I read become twisted by the filth that fills my insides... the decaying hopes and dreams I once had.. destroyed by the truth unveiled to me about this world... the hypocrites and people that just dont care for anything but themselves. I felt the same way as you do. And I remember... and I know it now.. I just didn't want to change. I listened to the lies that cooed and softened me... calling out the apathy and the anger... eventually I got out of it... I found that it was possible. I decided to change after months and months of nothing but pain.... I lost everything then. Finally I had realized where I had ended up... and I finally got myself out. You're not unsaveable. If anything, just blind. The world looks so bad sometimes you just can't help but close your eyes again.. but you are here and maybe it's because you want to open them again... if only a little bit. However, I agree with The Cheat. You have to start trying. Posting here is a start, but you can get out of that state of mind. If you want to, it will take some work.. but there are people here that will support you if you ever need it. Drop me a pm whenever you like. You are not a bad person... maybe lost... but definately not unsaveable. You're in arms reach, you just have to reach out.

there is noone that is unsaveable Jesus sacrificed himself for us to clense our sins. Everyone makes mistakes God knows this it is because we are human if you accept Christ and live the best way you can you can and will be saved

unsaveable said:

Yep, thats me.
I'm not a nice person.
I do bad things. I hurt myself and others.
Sometimes I do it on purpose, sometimes not.
But I can't change. No meds will do it. Nothing will.
So basically, I'm going to hell.
I've read the Bible. Been told to love Jesus and accept him as my personal saviour, or whatever. It kind of seemed right and nice...when I was about 7 years old. Now I just don't care anymore.
This ugly planet, with ugly people. It's always been ugly. War, famine, murder, hate - it just goes on and on.
That's why I got myself 'fixed' so I can't have kids. Who would want to have kids? Bringing another life into this world. It's a horrible thing to do.
So yeah, I'm pretty much a lost cause.
It's my life, and I'll do what I want with it. I don't have a choice coz god hardens my heart more everday like he says he will (somewhere in Romans, IIRC).
I bet youre glad youre not me.

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Wait a second... do you believe in Jesus? It doesn't matter how bad of a person you think you are. I've had the same problem, and God just gets mad at me when I try to be good enough and be a "good" person. Jesus Christ himself interjects and causes me to do things at times I didn't even know he was there for his own purpose. There are plenty of "good" people out there that won't meet Jesus Christ in heaven. That's not the main focus anyway. The focus is supposed to be on Jesus, and not on being a "good" person. Check this verse out:

Matthew 7:21
21"Not everyone who says to me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only he who does the will of my Father who is in heaven.

What exactly is the will of God you ask?

John 6:29
29Jesus answered, "The work of God is this: to believe in the one he has sent."

What I've found remarkable is that even though I'm a bad person in myself, Jesus Christ has faith in his own promises so much that if I put faith in Him, I will receive eternal life. He can't bend His eternal promises around because I'm such a bad person. Also, God understands that there is not one good enough person on this planet capable of reaching Him. That was the purpose of Him sending Jesus Christ down, His secret weapon who was here before the earth was created. Christ's agenda is not to save proud, good people but to save frail, bad, sinful people. Yes, this means if you are a murderer, you can still be reconciled to God through faith. God is very understanding and longsuffering, and knows that you can't do this on your own, at all. Period. That's why Christ actually came down to earth, in flesh, to die for your sins!

Unsaveable?


Yep, thats me.
I'm not a nice person.
I do bad things. I hurt myself and others.
Sometimes I do it on purpose, sometimes not.
But I can't change. No meds will do it. Nothing will.
So basically, I'm going to hell.
I've read the Bible. Been told to love Jesus and accept him as my personal saviour, or whatever. It kind of seemed right and nice...when I was about 7 years old. Now I just don't care anymore.
This ugly planet, with ugly people. It's always been ugly. War, famine, murder, hate - it just goes on and on.
That's why I got myself 'fixed' so I can't have kids. Who would want to have kids? Bringing another life into this world. It's a horrible thing to do.
So yeah, I'm pretty much a lost cause.
It's my life, and I'll do what I want with it. I don't have a choice coz god hardens my heart more everday like he says he will (somewhere in Romans, IIRC).
I bet youre glad youre not me.

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You are saveable. Jesus Christ died so that we can exchange our dead in sin life for His alive and sin free one. I understand that you cannot do it yourself - no one can. If we could , there would have been no need for a savior. He said he came not for the righteous but for sinners. You can admit you sin - admit it to Him. Just give it to Him and ask Him to take over. That is salvation. Not what you do, but what He did. It doesnt matter if you've committed 1 sin or a billion. He can forgive them all.

If God hardened your heart you wouldnt be here posting that. I was you once. I still think the world is quite ugly but i know why it is now and that is because of sin being in it. More sin, the worse it gets and will keep on getting that way untill He returns. Please read my CF page.

A good book also to read is called classic christianity by Bob George. It speaks of the freedom in the cross - the real freedom we have in Jesus Christ because we are forgiven. He knows you cannot do it which is why He came. You will be in my prayers.

unsaveable said:

Yep, thats me.
I'm not a nice person.
I do bad things. I hurt myself and others.
Sometimes I do it on purpose, sometimes not.
But I can't change. No meds will do it. Nothing will.
So basically, I'm going to hell.
I've read the Bible. Been told to love Jesus and accept him as my personal saviour, or whatever. It kind of seemed right and nice...when I was about 7 years old. Now I just don't care anymore.
This ugly planet, with ugly people. It's always been ugly. War, famine, murder, hate - it just goes on and on.
That's why I got myself 'fixed' so I can't have kids. Who would want to have kids? Bringing another life into this world. It's a horrible thing to do.
So yeah, I'm pretty much a lost cause.
It's my life, and I'll do what I want with it. I don't have a choice coz god hardens my heart more everday like he says he will (somewhere in Romans, IIRC).
I bet youre glad youre not me.

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And your question is...?

My dear brother,
I am sorry for the hurt and depression you feel in your life, and if you pm me, we can pray together.
No life in unchangeable, no person too hardened in heart, no wall is too big for our Saviour Jesus. This I know for sure!
-Brother Sean-

Hello unsaveable, it seems to me like it's probably just the opposite, my guess is that you have such a big heart inside there that you are overtaken by guilt and do not allow yourself to be saved. You are your own worst critic! You must let go of your guilt and forgive yourself. You must accept God's forgiveness! Indeed there is no pit too deep for Him to pull you out of!
Well, i will pray for you.....pray that the weight will be lifted off your shoulders.
Guilt is the biggest thing that keeps people from God.....thats how the bad guy likes it.....if satan can countinue to convince you that you are not good enough or that your not able to be saved....then he wins.

But remember.....NO ONE is good enough! But God still has His hand reached out for you to grab onto.....when you are ready!
God Bless!

unsaveable said:

Yep, thats me.
I'm not a nice person.
I do bad things. I hurt myself and others.
Sometimes I do it on purpose, sometimes not.
But I can't change. No meds will do it. Nothing will.
So basically, I'm going to hell.
I've read the Bible. Been told to love Jesus and accept him as my personal saviour, or whatever. It kind of seemed right and nice...when I was about 7 years old. Now I just don't care anymore.
This ugly planet, with ugly people. It's always been ugly. War, famine, murder, hate - it just goes on and on.
That's why I got myself 'fixed' so I can't have kids. Who would want to have kids? Bringing another life into this world. It's a horrible thing to do.
So yeah, I'm pretty much a lost cause.
It's my life, and I'll do what I want with it. I don't have a choice coz god hardens my heart more everday like he says he will (somewhere in Romans, IIRC).
I bet youre glad youre not me.

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I have read similar statements coming from hardened unbelievers in S. B. Shaw's "Dying Testimonies of Saved and Unsaved" which statements were made while they were still in their prime, and yet most of them took it all back upon their deathbeds. Their unbelief lasted up to but not beyond the point of death. I think you will find that the future will change many of your beliefs for you if you do not choose to change them now. You are saveable. A mountain of sins the elevation of Everest will not keep a single believing soul out of heaven...But unbelief will.

unsaveable said:

Yep, thats me.
I'm not a nice person.
I do bad things. I hurt myself and others.
Sometimes I do it on purpose, sometimes not.
But I can't change. No meds will do it. Nothing will.
So basically, I'm going to hell.
I've read the Bible. Been told to love Jesus and accept him as my personal saviour, or whatever. It kind of seemed right and nice...when I was about 7 years old. Now I just don't care anymore.
This ugly planet, with ugly people. It's always been ugly. War, famine, murder, hate - it just goes on and on.
That's why I got myself 'fixed' so I can't have kids. Who would want to have kids? Bringing another life into this world. It's a horrible thing to do.
So yeah, I'm pretty much a lost cause.
It's my life, and I'll do what I want with it. I don't have a choice coz god hardens my heart more everday like he says he will (somewhere in Romans, IIRC).
I bet youre glad youre not me.

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Man you sound like you have a hard life. My father was one of the biggest drug dealers in our tri state area. Him and his druggy buddies would get us kids together and make us fight while they bet on us. I remember being promised a quarter for the first one to draw blood. I knocked my own twin brother front tooth out for a dollar. My fondest memories of my family is sitting on the back porch drinking beer with my dad at 9. My mom was hospitalized 4 times by the time I graduated high school due to nervous breakdowns and abuse. I was mad at the world, did not care if I lived or died. I have actually been banned from a town due to putting a boy into a coma. My life was a down hill run leading me straight to hell. But God has since saved my soul because I realized that I needed him. He did not have to save me and probably should not have, but he did. So you cannot tell me that you are Unsavable. God does love you, you just have to quit being so stubborn and see it.