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BeckyJ

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In your opinion is truth objective or subjective?

- Objective truth is generally defined as a statement that corresponds to reality, independent of personal feelings, opinions, or biases.
- Subjective truth is influenced by personal beliefs, feelings, or perspectives.
 

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Whether "truth" is objective or subjective is more of a metaphysical or epistemological question, not really an ethical one.

I'm sorry to derail the discussion, but being as philosophically aware as I try to be, I just thought I'd add this little extra point in here.
 
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The op begins by asking for an opinion. That is a problematic articulation as posed because it creates a contradiction in reasoning for those who would rather state facts than opine.

Truth=information=knowledge.

Knowledge is learned because it is dictated by the facts of reality and NOT imagined in one's mind.

However, this necessarily means there exists 'ignorance' of what is The Truth, which also means the terms 'objective' and 'subjective' do not form a true dichotomy when referencing perspectives/views. Hence an objective view of reality would contain all subjective views and would not discount the validity of each person's unique experience in reality.
 
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Truth is objective. There is only one reality, and truth is an accurate reflection of reality.

Not all questions or statements are amenable to being classified as true or false. "Vanilla tastes better than chocolate." is obviously a subjective opinion rather than a fact about all of reality.
 
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It depends. There are some objective truths like in maths or material science but also subjective truths like who is the best team to support or what religion to cleave to.
 
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Truth is objective based on the eternal unchanging word of God. And all practices and ideas should flow from that point.
Happily dashing babies skulls in is wrong even if God commands it.
 
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Who’s reality? The Kingdom’s or what man perceives as real but God calls backwards?
Difficult question to answer as posed. Why? Because "Who's reality" conflates reality with one's perspective of reality. But to answer the intent of your question, I will say that the knowledge of God is the Light of the soul in the knowledge of His Person, which is why 'The Christ' means the True Image of God sent by God.
 
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I will say that the knowledge of God is the Light of the soul in the knowledge of His Person, which is why 'The Christ' means the True Image of God sent by God.
True but that ignores the message which was given us, His Gospel not ours.
 
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True but that ignores the message which was given us, His Gospel not ours.
In response to "His Gospel not ours", I would again point out that the term 'Christ' means the True Image of God sent by God. Or in other words, "NOT imagined by any creature".
 
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Information can be false. Knowledge can be inaccurate.
Thanks for the reply.

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Truth=information=knowledge.

My post above is using objective language, NOT subjective language, so as to differentiate facts from opinions. All three terms are therefore intended to express positive absolutes.

So, to objectively qualify as information, it must be informative; Which is also why, objectively speaking, 'false' information intends to denote that it's misleading, and therefore NOT informative.. Hence I'm objectively reasoning upon a true dichotomy, in order to prevent the misconstruing or obfuscating of words we all use to communicate.

Knowledge/ignorance is a true dichotomy. This is an axiom ---> Something must be true. Without a "true" objective meaning of "truth", then there is no true meaning to ignorance or knowledge, whether it's objective or subjective in it's perspective. Axioms are necessary for logical reasoning to occur. Without them there can be no mathematics.

What you're referring to would accurately be described using terms such as misinformation, or disinformation if intentionally misleading. Likewise, anything that is learned that is false, would not objectively qualify as knowledge. If one's knowledge is inaccurate, incomplete, or unsure, then it's best to just say in all honesty, "I don't know for sure" or simply "I don't know". To say one knows, when they don't actually know, qualifies as falsehood, and to dishonestly say I don't know, when in fact I do, is also falsehood.
 
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There's only one reality, the one we all live in together.
Not so. Man wants to live in a reality of our own making but God was clear we’ve got it backwards. Remember how the Jews expected a human king to fit their reality? Jesus said it wasn’t him as their reality was not His.
 
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I would again point out that the term 'Christ' means the True Image of God sent by God. Or in other words, "NOT imagined by any creature
Again man adding their own truth. It means anointed one. One appointed to bring the Gospel of the Kingdom which mankind including Christians chose to ignore because it convicts us all and of course we don’t wish to repent/change
 
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Not so. Man wants to live in a reality...
Truth is that which is in accord with the reality you do live in, not fantasies about the reality you want to live in.

"Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn't go away."
Philip K. Dick
 
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