Trump uses a certain wording in deleted tweet

Jamsie · Jan 9, 2021

Wolseley said:
What does this tell you? It tells me that the Left and the Right are not only living in differing political viewpoints, but in completely different states of reality.

It tells me that if one is actually interested in a valid viewpoint there exist sources that are balanced and of high reporting quality. It tells me that one should use some thought before committing to a perspective, and should avoid extreme biased sources. It tells me that one should apply patterns of behavior and not simply take each occurrence or statement in isolation. It tells me that TDS as used by trump supporters is simply vacuous, as is "trump haters" and such. It tells me that trump did make one true statement when he said “I could stand in the middle of Fifth Avenue and shoot somebody and I wouldn’t lose voters.” ... sadly it speaks more to the character of his supporters than to his competence and his own character.

Brightmoon · Jan 9, 2021

Wolseley said:
I could post dozens of pictures showing Trump dining with minorities, embracing minorities, shaking hands with minorities; I could post dozens of accounts of ways and times Trump has donated to or helped with minority causes.

But it would be a waste of time. When one reaches the level of Trump Derangement Syndrome where they actually start to believe the balderdash spewed out of the mainstream media's wastepipes day after day, introducing truth, at any level, is fruitless. You would only repost with more drivel from the talking heads on the screen, because you actually think its true.

(shrug) Whatever. You want to hate Trump because the Glass Teat tells you to, go ahead. Have a nice life.

. Do you know who Uncle Ruckus is ? Some Black people are like that . They think voting for a documented racist will make the racist not try to harm them . And some Black people believe trump’s lies. Having more money in our pockets was because Obama worked hard to fix the economy that Bush Jr screwed up . Trump just rode in on Obama’s coattails .

Maria Billingsley · Jan 9, 2021

Halbhh said:
"These are the things and events that happen when a sacred landslide election victory is so unceremoniously & viciously stripped away from great patriots who have been badly & unfairly treated for so long. Go home with love & peace. Remember this day forever!" Trump wrote.
Twitter, Facebook remove Trump video amid Capitol violence

As you can see, Trump tweeted -- "...sacred landslide election..."

He called the election a "landslide" for himself, and claimed that was also... 'sacred'(!)

But, Our Savior says:

15 “Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves. 16 By their fruit you will recognize them. Do people pick grapes from thornbushes, or figs from thistles? 17 Likewise, every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. 18 A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, and a bad tree cannot bear good fruit. 19 Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. 20 Thus, by their fruit you will recognize them."
Matthew 7 NIV

Now, a good tree doesn't bear bad fruit.

Continues in post #3 and #4....please see those next.

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His statement is pointed towards Christian supporters, of which are many. One day the veil will be lifted. "I never knew you ", Jesus Christ of Nazareth.

Wolseley · Jan 9, 2021

Brightmoon said:
. Do you know who Uncle Ruckus is ? Some Black people are like that . They think voting for a documented racist will make the racist not try to harm them . Having more money in our pockets was because Obama worked hard to fix the economy that Bush Jr screwed up . Trump just rode in on Obama’s coattails .

If Obama's reign had been that great to begin with, we'd have had Beijing Joe four years ago. I am convinced that Trump's election was in response to, and a repudiation of, Obama's policies.

But, we don't need to worry, because now we'll have good old Joe, and all those policies Trump put in place to keep the United States secure from overseas whackjobs will soon be revoked. All those countries will now be our most favorite pals, because they know that Joe is a strong leader [/sarcasm] who will take no guff:

Iran threatens to hit US bases with medium- and long-range missiles | Iran | The Guardian

North Korea Calls US ‘Biggest Enemy,’ Vows to Develop More Nukes | Voice of America - English (voanews.com)

Chinese Military Bases in The Caribbean? – Soldier of Fortune Magazine
(sofmag.com)

China threatens countermeasures as Taiwan prepares for U.S. visit | Reuters

Yeah. Trump made it clear to Iran and North Korea especially that shenanigans from them would not go well. They've been rubbing their hands for years, waiting for a weak, gullible leader to arise in the US, that they could take advantage of. I'm sure that the mullahs, Little Kim, and the Chinese premier are just chortling with glee.

RDKirk · Jan 9, 2021

Wolseley said:
If Obama's reign had been that great to begin with, we'd have had Beijing Joe four years ago. I am convinced that Trump's election was in response to, and a repudiation of, Obama's policies.

It was in response to Obama's existence.

Halbhh · Jan 9, 2021

Swan7 said:
Oh good grief.... *face palm*

Read in context both in scripture and what someone says on a Twitter platform... You can't force scripture onto something said to mean what you want it to mean...That is twisting scripture. Know who it is that is speaking - and to whom - so that you can respond in kind.

Absolutely -- one can't even understand verses fully and well without reading fully the passage, and usually the chapter, and even then one needs to have read fully the entire book, and with a listening attitude, not in order to see what one wants to see.

To fully understand what are good fruits in a clear complete way is best done by reading fully through the New Testament in it's entirety ideally, but it is true you could potentially read several key passages in full and get the main idea. If you read the Gospel of John chapter 15 fully, and read Galatians chapter 5 fully, that's at least a good start.

Also, I use a similar standard of full listening for context when I see an excerpt from a speech or statement.

The prophetic suggesting tweet in post #1 is of course fully quoted. It's plenty clear.

Also, when Trump is saying more than once (post #3) that demonstrators at his rallies ought to be punched or that he would like to punch them, or that 'try not to hurt them' but then says 'but if you do, I'll defend you in court' really is plenty clear, and listening to Trump for minutes (as I have quite a few times) won't increase the clarity of such a simple and clear sentence.

Halbhh · Jan 9, 2021

Blade said:
I expect this kind of talk from the world from those that do not know Jesus Christ as lord who set us free.. and expects us to treat others the same way He treats us.

So yes... I guess you can call all those people 2014 and before where GOD told them he would be president and during that time in office they will say "impeach impeach impeach but it will not happen". That came true. No clue what some of us do but president Trump did before being president looking for help ways to help Christian get out of prisons and all the other stuff that happens to them in 3rd world nations. Sorry that was not in the news? And fact he helped MANY get free.. and we did what?

Trump helped Israel how? Which NO other president could do. yeah.. thats a nation I would help if I didn't love believe in Jesus Christ as lord. Shall I go on? Oh sorry I can't will not bow to the world or the enemy. Christ is for president Trump.. well the proof should be the HATE for the man. Nothing good gets said just something negative. I pray this gets deleted. It helps no one. If this was posted and said about Joe biden some of you would really be upset. But Trump and family wife kids.. not your mom or dad people are talking about. Thats just it.. so get your live in order for the way you judge now is how the Father will judge you because you know the word and you did not do it in love to help to bring back to PRAY FOR? Speak words of life. We are 100% with Christ and HIS ways or not.

Forgive me if I offended. Jesus is lord....

This is important to talk about --

Blade said:
I guess you can call all those people 2014 and before where GOD told them he would be president and during that time in office they will say "impeach impeach impeach but it will not happen". That came true.

I do not know any nor have heard from any such people making prophecies from 2014.

I do know the Word, and I have heard dozens of good preachers of the Word.

I do know that the ONLY Savior we have said to test any prophets/prophecies and how to test them. I know these things.

Also, I know with total perfect clarity what is good fruit -- and not only from the invaluable Truth of Galatians chapter 5 (which must be read in full, every verse), but also all the rest of scripture that shows us what is good fruit -- from the Word.

This is best gained by reading fully through all the New Testament, with a listening attitude (not aiming to confirm doctrines, but actually listening to hear with "ears that hear" so that one takes His words into their heart).

But even if one simply read (or reread, and it's good the 5th or 10th time also!) Galatians chapter 5 and the Gospel of John chapter 15, as a start, with real listening. That is a good beginning.

But really, one needs to read fully all of the Gospel of John, and all of Galatians, and all of the rest of the New Testament, if one has not in say the last 10 years (and it doesn't matter if you have several times already, because these words are not meant to be put on a shelf like a finished thing that is done, but truly lived ongoing, and we need that humble listening ongoing).

Halbhh · Jan 9, 2021

Blade said:
No clue what some of us do but president Trump did before being president looking for help ways to help Christian get out of prisons and all the other stuff that happens to them in 3rd world nations. Sorry that was not in the news? And fact he helped MANY get free.. and we did what?

Now, since you wrote this to me, while I very often do not respond to suggestions and implications, because we don't need to try to prove ourselves to men, but we are to follow Christ, still, it may be really helpful for you to know that I have not condemned Trump, nor have I been judgemental towards him, nor have I ever suggested all he does is all bad, and in fact I've quite a few times pointed out something he did that was beneficial.

Also, I did notice at least a couple of times when he got some imprisoned Christian individuals free in foreign lands. That's a good, and he's in company with other presidents in doing that specific good action.

One of the disturbing things Trump has done for years is to try to paint it that anyone that on the other hand points out something wrong he did is 'fake news' or a failure somehow (in tweets attacking them, and so on). If a reporter asks him a question about something that looks wrong, he very often personally attacked on a personal level the reporter, for instance. These are sad moments, and none of us is perfect, and it's not easy to be challenged, but if one prays the Lord's Prayer, then it is vastly easier to do well when someone challenges you. What if Trump had prayed the Lord's Prayer in faith each day? -- I know that then if he had prayed in faith this prayer, he would have been given it's wonderful aid, and then would have handled so many moments better than he visibly did.

I considered whether I should answer the implied suggestion that maybe, just maybe, I didn't ever help in any way those imprisoned.... Well....I try to avoid all I can doing anything that disobeys Christ's instructions to his sheep in the beginning of Matthew chapter 6, and I'll hold to that today, with His grace and aid.

If we boast, we should boast only in Jesus Christ and His amazing grace towards us! So....I'll suffer whatever untrue suggestions anyone wants to make about my actions I suppose, as necessary, and know that God sees all, and He is the only one that can truly settle accounts in the best way. We should every one of us confess wrongs though -- 1rst John chapter 1.

Halbhh · Jan 9, 2021

Maria Billingsley said:
His statement is pointed towards Christian supporters, of which are many. One day the veil will be lifted. "I never knew you ", Jesus Christ of Nazareth.

Yes. I can only think to respond when I see someone following a man instead of Christ to bring something from scripture, and as Paul, to entreat and ask any to turn and rely solely on Christ alone for their hope, the true right one for their...dedication and devotion. Their energy and focus and work -- to do as He says, and not as mortal men say.

oneanswer · Jan 9, 2021

Hazelelponi said:
There is no one that God couldn't save... the insinuation that there are is either bad theology, or a misunderstanding of God's ability to save and Christ's work on the cross having the capacity to save the sinner.

Whether God chooses to leave them in their sin or whether He chooses to save them out of it is something only God knows. But he's perfectly capable and the saved are not somehow better people just because God chose to save us. That kind of thinking is prideful.

oneanswer · Jan 9, 2021

It's interesting that johnathon cahn, Kim Clement, mark taylor, and a monk in 1983 said Donald Trump was directed by God to bring people back to God. And was chosen by God to be president. And other prophetic people say this also.

oneanswer · Jan 9, 2021

Wolseley said:
Trump has donated to or helped with minority causes.

But it would be a waste of time. When one reaches the level of Trump Derangement Syndrome where they

Yes you are correct .but. If trump was chosen by God as many prophets say.
Then we need to understand gods ways are not our ways.

Brightmoon · Jan 9, 2021

oneanswer said:
It's interesting that johnathon cahn, Kim Clement, mark taylor, and a monk in 1983 said Donald Trump was directed by God to bring people back to God. And was chosen by God to be president. And other prophetic people say this also.

Well he was president and now he’s not .

NekoRose · Jan 13, 2021

Halbhh said:
As you can see, Trump tweeted -- "...sacred landslide election..."

He called the election a "landslide" for himself, and claimed that was also... 'sacred'(!)

Chris V++ said:
People have been regarding the President as some sort of messiah and he was willing to assume that role so hence the word 'sacred.' Does that make VP Pence a Judas or a Peter? Someone should start a poll.

He never called himself or saw himself as a Messiah, in fact, he said there was someone more popular than him, JESUS, a sitting president actually said JESUS. That is an amazing thing, as opposed to Obama and Biden. But on topic, what he was meaning was sacred as in God-Given landslide which was stolen by the left because the victory in 2016 was God-Given and sacred, if not, and Hillary won, we'd be in wars with Russia and North Korea and who knows who else, and the world might cease to exist and be in complete fallout. God saved us then and he saved us again but of course they expected it and like the Devil in any of our lives, he does not want to give up. Just in our lives its a much smaller scale and we can stay on track better, this is larger and much harder, especially with the corruption in DC.

Brightmoon said:
Malignant narcissists don’t change they just get worse

Despite the context(Pres Trump is in no way a malignant narcissist) people who are though CAN change by the grace of the power of God. Never underestimate God, He can change anyone's heart, more than we could ever do. That goes for murderer's and rapists who seem to be too far gone, but you never know, only God knows, so don't say people can't change

Brightmoon said:
Well since this whole situation is trumps fault . People have died because of his words and encouragement and not just this week . I would say cleansing is probably the appropriate word for Removing the filth trump has caused

I assume you mean DC chaos, that is false. Pres Trump didn't incite anything. It was supposed to be a peaceful rally outside the capitol, Pres Trump even planning to speak, until antifa and BLM in maga gear decide to cause chaos and break into the capitol. Also think of it like this, which Trump supporter, EVEN the most radicalized, would want to interrupt the VERY THING that could help them get Pres Trump 4 more years with the debating and possibly sending it back, which probably got ruined thanks to Antifa/BLM chaos. In tweets, and the video that got taken down, he repeatedly called for PEACE and respecting DC officers, plus he is the Law and order president, it makes absolutely 0 sense for him to incite violence.

RDKirk said:
You mean like Trump calling neo-Nazis "fine people?"

This is jus plain false. It has been proven after charlottesville, he has condemned KKK AND the neo nazi's there(also condemned david duke far before this) BUT he also acknowledged there were ALSO very fine people on both sides, protesting to keep the statues, as well as protesting to ditch the statues, which that lady who died was on one of those sides. Media just loves to use "soundbites" to make anyone sound bad, not just Pres Trump

Chris V++ · Jan 13, 2021

NekoRose said:
It was supposed to be a peaceful rally outside the capitol, Pres Trump even planning to speak, until antifa and BLM in maga gear decide to cause chaos

This is a blatant lie they are trying to feed the public. The identities and affiliations of these insurgents are being made public. Arrests are being made. I'd suggest finding another news source. There is no crime or sin in toggling back and forth between FOX and CNN.

Chris V++ · Jan 13, 2021

NekoRose said:
He never called himself or saw himself as a Messiah, in fact, he said there was someone more popular than him, JESUS, a sitting president actually said JESUS. That is an amazing thing, as opposed to Obama and Biden. But on topic, what he was meaning was sacred as in God-Given landslide which was stolen by the left because the victory in 2016 was God-Given and sacred, if not, and Hillary won, we'd be in wars with Russia and North Korea and who knows who else, and the world might cease to exist and be in complete fallout. God saved us then and he saved us agai

In the same paragraph where you are touting his use of the word Jesus you go to describe a 'what would have been' apocalyptic scenario of what would have certainly befallen humanity had not not have been graced with our political... prophet, maybe? The prophet of the sacred election. And some wonder why they are calling this a cult.

Halbhh · Jan 13, 2021

NekoRose said:
He never called himself or saw himself as a Messiah, in fact, he said there was someone more popular than him, JESUS, a sitting president actually said JESUS. That is an amazing thing, as opposed to Obama and Biden. But on topic, what he was meaning was sacred as in God-Given landslide which was stolen by the left because the victory in 2016 was God-Given and sacred, if not, and Hillary won, we'd be in wars with Russia and North Korea and who knows who else, and the world might cease to exist and be in complete fallout. God saved us then and he saved us again but of course they expected it and like the Devil in any of our lives, he does not want to give up. Just in our lives its a much smaller scale and we can stay on track better, this is larger and much harder, especially with the corruption in DC.

Despite the context(Pres Trump is in no way a malignant narcissist) people who are though CAN change by the grace of the power of God. Never underestimate God, He can change anyone's heart, more than we could ever do. That goes for murderer's and rapists who seem to be too far gone, but you never know, only God knows, so don't say people can't change

I assume you mean DC chaos, that is false. Pres Trump didn't incite anything. It was supposed to be a peaceful rally outside the capitol, Pres Trump even planning to speak, until antifa and BLM in maga gear decide to cause chaos and break into the capitol. Also think of it like this, which Trump supporter, EVEN the most radicalized, would want to interrupt the VERY THING that could help them get Pres Trump 4 more years with the debating and possibly sending it back, which probably got ruined thanks to Antifa/BLM chaos. In tweets, and the video that got taken down, he repeatedly called for PEACE and respecting DC officers, plus he is the Law and order president, it makes absolutely 0 sense for him to incite violence.

This is jus plain false. It has been proven after charlottesville, he has condemned KKK AND the neo nazi's there(also condemned david duke far before this) BUT he also acknowledged there were ALSO very fine people on both sides, protesting to keep the statues, as well as protesting to ditch the statues, which that lady who died was on one of those sides. Media just loves to use "soundbites" to make anyone sound bad, not just Pres Trump

Did you see post #2 and post #3 and post #4 -- they are why I made this thread: to point out what Jesus Christ says about what prophecy is true!

Not what a few men say.

Test what they say against the Word of God.

Jesus, the One Who is always True, and always says the Truth.

Wolseley · Jan 13, 2021

Chris V++ said:
This is a blatant lie they are trying to feed the public. The identities and affiliations of these insurgents are being made public. Arrests are being made. I'd suggest finding another news source. There is no crime or sin in toggling back and forth between FOX and CNN.

Except that FOX is suspect now that they've been bought out by Disney, and CNN is straight-up fiction.

Halbhh · Jan 13, 2021

Wolseley said:
Except that FOX is suspect now that they've been bought out by Disney, and CNN is straight-up fiction.

See what our Lord and Savior says about true prophecies and real proof -- post #2 -- and then compare to post #3 and #4.

The real Truth sayer, our Savior, Jesus, is the One Whom we should trust always, first and last.

Men are only doing ok when they are fully in agreement with Him.

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