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The problem with that situation is the condition you find yourself in prior to encountering someone willing to offer you a job. It is not the employers fault that you are deperate and have no skills. You got yourself into that position. So you do what everyone has do do in that position, what I had to do in fact, take a job that doesnt pay very well and one you dont like and use it as a stepping stone to a better one.
That's the beauty of America. Being born into poverty doesn't mean you have to stay in poverty.
Funny you should say that since your rebuttal to my post was the emotive one, not Machs response to yours.That's the beauty of arguing from an emotive rather than fact-based position. You don't actually need to be correct in order to think you've put forth a sound rebuttal.
Do you have these statistics?Statistically, a the economic class that a child is born into is the single highest predictor of their own financial result. Class mobility has been decreasing in the US for the last 30 years, and statistically, has one of the lowest social mobility rates in first world countries.
Despite frequent references to the United States as a classless society, about 62 percent of Americans (male and female) raised in the top fifth of incomes stay in the top two-fifths, according to
Or, 35% born in the bottom fifth rise out of the botto two-fifths. Plus, what percentage of those who are born in the bottom fifth remain in the bottom fifth because they make poor choices like teenage pregnancy, out of wedlock births and dropping out of school?research by the Economic Mobility Project of the Pew Charitable Trusts. Similarly, 65 percent born in the bottom fifth stay in the bottom two-fifths.
Same questions as above.Those born to the middle class have about an equal chance of moving up or down the income ladder, according to the Economic Mobility Project. But those born to black middle-class families are much more likely than their white counterparts to fall in rank. The children of the rich and poor, meanwhile, are less mobile than the middle class's. More than 40% of those Americans born in the bottom quintile remain stuck there as adults.
None of that refutes the fact that being born in poverty doesn't mean you have to stay in poverty. However, government programs that remove incentive go a long way in keeping people in those circumstances.That's the beauty of arguing from an emotive rather than fact-based position. You don't actually need to be correct in order to think you've put forth a sound rebuttal.
Statistically, a the economic class that a child is born into is the single highest predictor of their own financial result. Class mobility has been decreasing in the US for the last 30 years, and statistically, has one of the lowest social mobility rates in first world countries.
Despite frequent references to the United States as a classless society, about 62 percent of Americans (male and female) raised in the top fifth of incomes stay in the top two-fifths, according to research by the Economic Mobility Project of the Pew Charitable Trusts. Similarly, 65 percent born in the bottom fifth stay in the bottom two-fifths.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/05/u...-to-rise-from-lower-rungs.html?pagewanted=all
Those born to the middle class have about an equal chance of moving up or down the income ladder, according to the Economic Mobility Project. But those born to black middle-class families are much more likely than their white counterparts to fall in rank. The children of the rich and poor, meanwhile, are less mobile than the middle class's. More than 40% of those Americans born in the bottom quintile remain stuck there as adults.
Social mobility and inequality: Upper bound | The Economist
And from where would this food come? Who would provide it? It is important to point out here principle behind my statement before I make it. I support as a primary the concept of individual rights, and believe that the proper role of the state is to defend those rights. The state cannot rob Peter to pay Paul without robbing Peter. No matter how worthy the outcome, robbing Peter is theft and a violation by the state of Peters rights. So as much as I may wish all children to be fed, I cannot support the idea of the state accomplishing this goal through force and rights violations. To paraphrase the Bible, you dont do evil that good amy come.
Government force is moral in the same manner that your use of force against another man would be considered moral--as an act of defense or a response to the initiation of force. It is immoral, for example, for a man to stroll into a kindergarten and start shooting children, but moral for someone to put a bullet between his eyes.
None of that refutes the fact that being born in poverty doesn't mean you have to stay in poverty. However, government programs that remove incentive go a long way in keeping people in those circumstances.
Government programs have a tendency to be like throwing someone a life jacket then leaving them to fend for themselves."None of that refutes the fact that being tossed into the ocean doesn't mean you need to stay in the ocean. However, government programs that give people life jackets go a long way in keeping people in the ocean."
"None of that refutes the fact that being tossed into the ocean doesn't mean you need to stay in the ocean. However, government programs that give people life jackets go a long way in keeping people in the ocean."
I agree! Let's let them become homeless and hungry and make them as uncomfortable and we can. Then they may meet their maker faster and do away with the poverty.It is an injustice to make the poor comfortable with their poverty.
I agree! Let's let them become homeless and hungry and make them as uncomfortable and we can. Then they may meet their maker faster and do away with the poverty.
Government programs have a tendency to be like throwing someone a life jacket then leaving them to fend for themselves.
They might be. Without the life jacket of government assistance, they'll need to swim on their own.
I agree! Let's let them become homeless and hungry and make them as uncomfortable and we can. Then they may meet their maker faster and do away with the poverty.
If you want to learn to swim, you have to take the life jacket off
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