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Thoughts - Day one of the Impeachment hearings

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What’s laughable is you seem to think repeating Jim Jordan’s lame talking points and attempt at muddying up the conversation is going to convince anybody other than Trump’s already die-hard committed followers.
 
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Nobody said it, or you would have been able to quote it. However, Schiff is on the side of the democrats, AND gets to determine what questions can be asked/answered, just as a judge does.

Remember Schiff IS a Democrat.
 
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The public can think for themselves. They did when the dems didn't focus enough on winning the White House.
The public did think for themselves. That’s why we flipped the House last year. You guys really should try to move on from 2016 at some point and join us in the present.
 
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The presiding judge of this “case” will be Chief Justice Roberts — if it even gets to that phase.

It will definitely get to that phase. More witnesses are coming next week, including Gorden Sondland.
 
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Is that you Jim Jordan?

Who knows. But the point is still the same. The witnesses yesterday established the framework of behind the scenes pressure, of backchannel dealings, etc.

And it suggests possible reasons. But the next step is to establish intent. And that will require further witnesses who actually talked to the president. Or communications which directly show it.
 
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It will definitely get to that phase. More witnesses are coming next week, including Gorden Sondland.

Sondland may be a more important witness to establish intent.
 
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The public did think for themselves. That’s why we flipped the House last year. You guys really should try to move on from 2016 at some point and join us in the present.

What were you thinking when you left the Senate in Republican control? That was last year too.
 
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Everyone knows the Senate is perpetually rigged against the Democrats.

Ever since they had control of it under he-who-shall-not-be-named (and then lost it under him as well)?
 
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but hey! We have 2nd and 3rd hand hearsay of 6 people having 4 conversations that no one has testified to who has first hand knowledge.
Well, then let's get some of those people with first-hand knowledge on the stand then. If there was nothing nefarious going on, that should clear things right up, no?

Oh wait, we can't, because Trump has banned them from testifying. Why would he do that if they could clear him?
 
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IOW there was quid pro quo because the President has done everything to hide the truth. He can't be trusted.

No, it's because his opponents haven't been able to prove that the "truth" is other than what he said.
 
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