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Theistic Evolution - A position

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Theistic Evolution is an Oxymoron, since God tells us He created and TE tells us that He used evolution to create everything. Many Liberal and modernist "so called" Christians, being UnAble to understand the Bible, make up their own False Theories and Falsely proclaim that evolution is the only answer. In their arrogance and unbelief, they find it Impossible to believe Scripture, so they change it into whatever they wish it to say.

Jesus tells us of this thinking:

Mat 15:9 But in vain they do worship Me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.

God Bless them and give them Faith to believe Jesus instead of the world.

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Exactly what is wrong with the idea that god guided evolution to you? You already think of creation being long and drawn out anyways. As far as I can tell you only have an issue with specifically human evolution, not with that of other animals and perhaps not with the idea that evolution began to apply to humans after they were created.
 
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Dear Sarah, It is IMPOSSIBLE for Humans to have evolved from the common ancestor of Apes, since man was made the THIRD Day Gen 2:4-7 (13.5 Billion years ago in man's time) and EVERY other living creature, including the common ancestor of Apes, did NOT come forth from the water, until the FIFTH Day. Gen 1:21 (3.7 Billion years ago in man's time)

Theistic Evolution rejects God's Holy Word and falsely teaches that Humans evolved, as science falsely teaches. I'm sorry, but they are completely wrong for they MUST change God's Holy Word into Allegory, Myth, and Fable, before they can accept such Satanic Teaching.

IF they could support their views with Scripture, they would, but they CANNOT, and that is WHY they MUST hide from God's Truth. God Bless you.

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Ok, then scripturally, prove the "sons of god" are prehistoric peoples, and not other things. You can only use scripture, no fossil record, none of that. Show me exactly where it suggests that is what the sons of god are.
 
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Ok, then scripturally, prove the "sons of god" are prehistoric peoples, and not other things. You can only use scripture, no fossil record, none of that. Show me exactly where it suggests that is what the sons of god are.

Dear Sarah, The sons of God are the ONLY people who fit the description.

Gen 1:21 shows that "every living creature that moveth" was created and brought forth from the water on the 5th Day. Unless the sons of God are these people, there is NO Scriptural explanation of How the sons of God could possibly produce children with Adam's descendants. Unless the sons of God were identical to Humans, they could not produce children with them according to Science.

This explains WHERE Cain's wife came from on the first world. Gen 4:1
This also explains WHERE the prehistoric people of our Earth came from. Gen 11:9 Science agrees that "every living creature that moveth" on Planet Earth, evolved from the water beginning 3.7 Billion years ago which agrees TOTALLY with God's Truth. NO other creature can produce offspring with Humans EXCEPT the prehistoric people who have been on this Earth for hundreds of thousands of years, leaving their bones for us to find.

Some misguided Religionists falsely assume that the sons of God were fallen Angels. Jesus tells us that Angels do NOT marry (have sex) in Mat 22:30. The fallen Angels are ALSO kept in chains under darkness, according to Jde 1:6, so you can rule out fallen Angels, Scripturally.

Gen 6:1-4 explains that the daughters (descendants) of man (Adam) AND the sons of God could produce offspring with each other. Gen 6:4 shows that these offspring had the unique intelligence which ONLY Adam and God posessed, Gen 3:22, and calls them giants. These are giants intellectually, just like today's Humans are, when compared to ANY other living creature, on this Earth.

Conclusion: The sons of God are the prehistoric people on the present Earth, who evolved from the water, and who were here when Noah arrived. NO other living creature fits the Scriptural description. I have many, many, more Scriptural evidences, and confirmation from both Science and History, if you would like more.

I would ask ANY Bible believing Christian to refute the above Scriptual references Biblically. I have been trying to get someone to do this for more than 18 years online. So far, NO one has been able to explain. God Bless you.

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Aman
 
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Aman777: Apparently, the only one true Christian on earth. Everyone else simply doesn't understand the bible and/or science correctly. The only heaven-bound, enlightened homo sapien in existence, and he posts here. Oh, how blessed we are to be in the presence of his magnificent intellect.
 
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The reason I put Aman777 on ignore is because all I got was scripture and zero science discussion, other than calling it evil and satanic.

I don't know if Aman777 has ever reviewed to guidelines for this particular forum, but I'll post it here for his education.

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Apologetics is a branch of theology that concerns itself with defending or proving the truths of the Christian faith and doctrines. Discussion and debate on subjects related to general apologetics are not allowed in the Discussion and Debate category forums. Christians who would like to discuss apologetics may do so in the Christian Apologetics forum.
 
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Sons of god still could be fallen angels. Sons of god could be giants, they aren't specified as being anything in particular. Since it isn't really stated when angels are created (if we assume like many do that the serpent in the garden of Eden was satan, then it seems angels must have been created long before the universe) or the extent of what other non human animals were made enough to eliminate such things as giants, there is still nothing to indicate the sons of god were prehistoric peoples. Additionally, even if we go by your idea of two separate worlds, nothing suggests anything was created on a second one really, thus all but what life was on the ark would have pretty much been destroyed and all life would have to originate from that.
 
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Dear Delphiki, False. The reason I understand Genesis much better than some, is that I also study Science and History and compare them with the words of the Supreme Intelligence of Creation. I find that ONLY God could have possibly known the Scientific Truth of our origin, more than 3k years ago, which was long BEFORE Isaac Newton was even born.

A good example is one of the latest discoveries of Science, and that is that it was Hundreds of MILLIONS of years AFTER the Big Bang BEFORE the first Stars were formed and put forth their light.

Gen 2:4 shows that the Big Bang of our Cosmos was on the 3rd Day.
Gen 1:16 shows that the FIRST Stars lighted on the 4th Day.

Now, it's your time to explain HOW ancient men could have possibly known this and told us this Truth, so long ago. I don't believe you can. Fool me. God Bless you.

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Dear Readers, Rick comes forward to demonstrate that he is confused about my views. It's because he ran and hid BEFORE actually debating me. I have ALWAYS posted that God's Truth MUST agree with the Truth discovered by Science AND History, in order to be credible.

The only time it IS necessary to have Blind Faith in Scripture, is in believing the Gospel of Jesus Christ, which is His death, for our sins, burial and resurrection, according to the Scriptures. In order to have Faith to believe this to the point of being born again Spiritually, is for the Father to send that Faith to the person seeking it. Jhn 6:37

I am sorry that he insists on confusing things in order to avoid actually discussing my views. God Bless all of you and Rick too.

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Aman
 
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Dear Sarah, Sorry, but Angels don't have sex, which makes it impossible for them to get Humans pregnant. IF they could, you might have a case, but most people who claim this are those who read the Book of Enoch, which is NOT part of the Canon because God didn't want it there. So, you can believe what you wish, but you CANNOT support your ideas with actual Scripture. God Bless you.

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Okay Aman777, I just took you of my ignore list. Now I want you to pay close attention. Cease with preaching and apologists. If you cannot discuss science with me do not direct any posts toward me. I encourage you to address the question in the OP and only that. My religious beliefs are none of your business, so stop telling me what I am or am not spiritually. DO YOU UNDERSTAND?
 
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Provide scriptural support that angels and fallen angels specifically cannot have sex or reproduce with humans.
 
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Provide scriptural support that angels and fallen angels specifically cannot have sex or reproduce with humans.

Dear Sarah, Sure. Jesus tells us:

Mat 22:30 For in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as the angels of God in heaven.
Mar 12:25 For when they shall rise from the dead, they neither marry, nor are given in marriage; but are as the angels which are in heaven.
Luk 20:34 And Jesus answering said unto them, The children of this world marry, and are given in marriage:
Luk 20:35 But they which shall be accounted worthy to obtain that world, and the resurrection from the dead, neither marry, nor are given in marriage:

There is NO Scripture which tells us HOW to get married, and NO marriage ceremony. God recognizes perfect marriages and that is when two virgins come together as one. IOW, to be married perfectly is to become one with another person sexually.

Angels, like people in Heaven, don't marry, nor are they given in marriage. Another name for Angels is messangers. Only beings of Flesh can produce other beings of Flesh. Here is a description of Angels and it does NOT sound like Flesh to me:

Rev 7:1 And after these things I saw four angels standing on the four corners of the earth, holding the four winds of the earth, that the wind should not blow on the earth, nor on the sea, nor on any tree.

Also, the fallen angels are bound in chains awaiting Judgment at the end of the world.

Jde 1:6 And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, He hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day.

The Angels in Hell would have to escape in order to have sex with women of flesh. There is something BETTER than sex and God kept it for us in Heaven. I can hardly wait to find out what it is. God Bless you.

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Aman
 
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