• Starting today August 7th, 2024, in order to post in the Married Couples, Courting Couples, or Singles forums, you will not be allowed to post if you have your Marital status designated as private. Announcements will be made in the respective forums as well but please note that if yours is currently listed as Private, you will need to submit a ticket in the Support Area to have yours changed.

  • CF has always been a site that welcomes people from different backgrounds and beliefs to participate in discussion and even debate. That is the nature of its ministry. In view of recent events emotions are running very high. We need to remind people of some basic principles in debating on this site. We need to be civil when we express differences in opinion. No personal attacks. Avoid you, your statements. Don't characterize an entire political party with comparisons to Fascism or Communism or other extreme movements that committed atrocities. CF is not the place for broad brush or blanket statements about groups and political parties. Put the broad brushes and blankets away when you come to CF, better yet, put them in the incinerator. Debate had no place for them. We need to remember that people that commit acts of violence represent themselves or a small extreme faction.
  • We hope the site problems here are now solved, however, if you still have any issues, please start a ticket in Contact Us

  • The rule regarding AI content has been updated. The rule now rules as follows:

    Be sure to credit AI when copying and pasting AI sources. Link to the site of the AI search, just like linking to an article.

dad

Undefeated!
Site Supporter
Jan 17, 2005
44,905
1,259
✟25,524.00
Country
Canada
Gender
Male
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Private
The mysterious inner earth is largely unknown to science. What they think they know of it is based on the laws and realities that exist on the earth surface, and are projected mentally deep deep down. Of course no one has ever been down there. So we bounce waves around, and melt stuff up here, and that sort of thing, and assume this tells us about the unknown inner earth.


"On top of Earth's core, consisting of liquid iron, lies the solid mantle, which is made up essentially of magnesium oxides, iron and silicon. The border between the core and the mantle, located at 2900 km below Earth's surface, is highly intriguing to geophysicists. With a pressure of around 1.4 million times the atmospheric pressure and a temperature of more than 4000 Kelvin, this zone is home to chemical reactions and changes in states of matter still unknown. The seismologists who have studied this subject have acknowledged an abrupt reduction of the speed of the seismic waves, which sometimes reach 30% when getting close to this border."

When Earth's mantle meets its core: Findings boost hypothesis of deep magma ocean


If there is a spiritual component to the inner earth then, we might ask at what depth it starts to really kick in.


Perhaps 2900 km?!
 

Davian

fallible
May 30, 2011
14,100
1,181
West Coast of Canada
✟46,103.00
Gender
Male
Faith
Ignostic
Marital Status
Married
Yes, and to imagine that the Earth is actually hollow:

"The Expanding Earth idea has been around for a long time, but science has not considered it worthy of genuine investigation because a driving force was missing. This is where the Hollow Earth theory comes in. A new understanding of Gravity gives rise to an expanding, hollow Earth and once and for all neatly solves the drifting continent phenomenon."

The Hollow Earth Theory - Serious scientific evidence supporting the theory that planets are naturally hollow.
 
Upvote 0

Split Rock

Conflation of Blathers
Nov 3, 2003
17,607
730
North Dakota
✟22,466.00
Faith
Agnostic
Marital Status
Single

Still peddling your loney Church of One fantasy world, eh dad? How's that working for you?

If there is a spiritual component to the inner earth then, we might ask at what depth it starts to really kick in.


Perhaps 2900 km?!

Why not 3500 km? Or 1500 km? Got any scripture you can mangle to support your 2900 km "theory?"
 
Upvote 0

dad

Undefeated!
Site Supporter
Jan 17, 2005
44,905
1,259
✟25,524.00
Country
Canada
Gender
Male
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Private
Yes, and to imagine that the Earth is actually hollow:
..
No thanks. I prefer to stop imagining. For example the abrupt change they can detect must be caused by something. It could be a zone where surface laws end for all that science knows. After all, the zone has to start somewhere, one would suspect. Man has been something like 10 miles down, so I think we can say that it is not in that area, generally, unless in some area there is some conduit, or connection to the lower zone. In the bible is does talk of a pit that connects...so that is also a real possibility that this pipeline to hell will exist one day. In fact, there may be areas where the zone comes closer to the surface than others
 
Upvote 0

Split Rock

Conflation of Blathers
Nov 3, 2003
17,607
730
North Dakota
✟22,466.00
Faith
Agnostic
Marital Status
Single
I prefer to stop imagining.
If that were so, then you would have nothing to post here.

Case in point:

emphasis mine.
 
Upvote 0

dad

Undefeated!
Site Supporter
Jan 17, 2005
44,905
1,259
✟25,524.00
Country
Canada
Gender
Male
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Private
Don't laugh, that's exactly what dad is saying.
Not really. I am saying we don't know. What is known is that the foundations of the earth are eternal, far as I can tell. Unlike the surface, which will be totally burned up. It is also known that there are spirit beings that dwell down there somewhere. That does not have to mean their habitation encompasses all or even most of the inner earth.

The point is that there indeed may be a zone where more than the physical exists, and more than physical only laws exist. For men on the surface then, assuming all is uniform, no accurate picture could be gotten. The very few actual facts that we might have, such as that seismic waves of one sort cannot penetrate beyond a certain range, could be interpreted quite differently.
 
Upvote 0

CabVet

Question everything
Dec 7, 2011
11,738
176
Los Altos, CA
✟43,402.00
Faith
Agnostic
Marital Status
Married
Politics
US-Others

You've got a great imagination, ever thought about writing fiction books? Gotta put that talent to work. That is, unless you are just repeating what you heard elsewhere.
 
Upvote 0

dad

Undefeated!
Site Supporter
Jan 17, 2005
44,905
1,259
✟25,524.00
Country
Canada
Gender
Male
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Private
If that were so, then you would have nothing to post here.

Case in point:


emphasis mine.
When one adds the bible to one's knowledge one has more to say. Elementary. But the bible does not tell us a lot of details about what the interior of the planet is like. So, in all honesty, and humility, when speaking of a zone where eternal laws take over from surface laws, I find it best to phrase things in a way that reflects less than absolute specific detailed knowledge mile by mile of the inner earth.

Now so called science has taken their belief system, that is, that our laws apply all the way to the core (and out to infinity and beyond as well) and concocted a models of the unknown, unvisited inner earth based on that and that alone. They then proceed to spout off about the created fantasy of what the depths of earth are like as if they knew! That is wrong, and a primo example of imagination run amok.

The only reasonable thing to do, is glean off the tiny bits that are actually known from their fabricated fantasy pile of steaming hot mental doodoo, and add in the little that is known from God's revelations to our species. While it still leaves a lot of unknowns, at least one can know enough to toss out wholesale the warped and devious conclusions that present state surface so called science has offered on the unknown.
 
Upvote 0

dad

Undefeated!
Site Supporter
Jan 17, 2005
44,905
1,259
✟25,524.00
Country
Canada
Gender
Male
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Private
You've got a great imagination, ever thought about writing fiction books? Gotta put that talent to work. That is, unless you are just repeating what you heard elsewhere.
The fiction is a hot core, where only physical materials and laws exist. Really. My stuff is anti fiction
 
Upvote 0

selfinflikted

Under Deck
Jul 13, 2006
11,441
786
46
✟39,014.00
Faith
Atheist
Marital Status
In Relationship
Politics
US-Democrat
The fiction is a hot core, where only physical materials and laws exist. Really. My stuff is anti fiction

What reason do any of us have to believe that anything other than physical materials exist at the center of the earth?
 
Upvote 0

dad

Undefeated!
Site Supporter
Jan 17, 2005
44,905
1,259
✟25,524.00
Country
Canada
Gender
Male
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Private
It worked for L. Ron Hubbard!
Any relation ..?


Old Mother Hubbard
Went to the cupboard,
To give the poor dog a bone:
When she came there,
The cupboard was bare,
And so the poor pecker had none.

She went to the baker's
To buy him some bread;
When she came back
The dog was dead!

She went to the undertaker's
To buy him a coffin;
When she came back
The dog was laughing.

She took a clean dish
to get him some tripe;
When she came back
He was smoking his pipe.

She went to the alehouse
To get him some beer;
When she came back
The dog sat in a chair.

She went to the tavern
For white wine and red;
When she came back
The dog stood on his head.

She went to the fruiterer's
To buy him some fruit;
When she came back
He was playing the flute.

She went to the tailor's
To buy him a coat;
When she came back
He was riding a goat.

She went to the hatter's
To buy him a hat;
When she came back
He was feeding her cat.

She went to the barber's
To buy him a wig
When she came back
He was dancing a jig.

She went to the cobbler's
To buy him some shoes;
When she came back
He was reading the news.

She went to the sempstress
To buy him some linen;
When she came back
The dog was spinning.

She went to the hosier's
To buy him some hose;
When she came back
He was dressed in his clothes.

The Dame made a curtsy,
The dog made a bow;
The Dame said, Your servant;
The dog said, Bow-wow.

This wonderful dog
Was Dame Hubbard's delight,
He could read, he could dance,
He could sing, he could write;
She gave him rich dainties
Whenever he fed,
And erected this monument
When he was dead.[1]
 
Upvote 0

CabVet

Question everything
Dec 7, 2011
11,738
176
Los Altos, CA
✟43,402.00
Faith
Agnostic
Marital Status
Married
Politics
US-Others
The fiction is a hot core, where only physical materials and laws exist. Really. My stuff is anti fiction

There is at least some (and by that I mean lots) of evidence for a core the way we understand it today. There is none for your stuff.
 
Upvote 0

Split Rock

Conflation of Blathers
Nov 3, 2003
17,607
730
North Dakota
✟22,466.00
Faith
Agnostic
Marital Status
Single
Or, you have no idea what you are babbling about.

Imagination is fine when it includes dad's erroneous interpretion of scripture, but it is "run amok," if it goes against it. Correct?


The only reasonable thing to do is to ignore your bible-based blather which has no practical use whatsoever, and figure things out with science, which has a long track record of practicality.
 
Upvote 0

Split Rock

Conflation of Blathers
Nov 3, 2003
17,607
730
North Dakota
✟22,466.00
Faith
Agnostic
Marital Status
Single
There is at least some (and by that I mean lots) of evidence for a core the way we understand it today. There is none for your stuff.

You are forgetting The Bible, and that dad is God's sole Prophet on Earth. Therefore, only dad can use his biblical interpretations to understand the center of our planet.
 
Upvote 0

dad

Undefeated!
Site Supporter
Jan 17, 2005
44,905
1,259
✟25,524.00
Country
Canada
Gender
Male
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Private
There is at least some (and by that I mean lots) of evidence for a core the way we understand it today. There is none for your stuff.
No. there isn't. Show us if you dare! Hey, one cannot take some material, and subject it to things in a lab to induce phase changes, and then claim that it must be that way under the earth.

Science does not know. Period.
 
Upvote 0

dad

Undefeated!
Site Supporter
Jan 17, 2005
44,905
1,259
✟25,524.00
Country
Canada
Gender
Male
Faith
Christian
Marital Status
Private
What you cannot ignore is that science doesn't know what the center of the earth is like. God would, since He made it, so ignore Him at your peril.
 
Upvote 0

Split Rock

Conflation of Blathers
Nov 3, 2003
17,607
730
North Dakota
✟22,466.00
Faith
Agnostic
Marital Status
Single
Science does not know. Period.
But dad does... well.... he sort of has some ideas that maybe are possibly somewhat something anyway....

What you cannot ignore is that science doesn't know what the center of the earth is like. God would, since He made it, so ignore Him at your peril.
You mean "ignore dad, God's One True Prophet on Earth," at my peril...
 
Upvote 0