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The Triumphal Entry, Two "Thieves", and Barabbas

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Here are two questions that are difficult to answer, but still lead to a few other questions.

(1) Who was Barabbas?
(2) Who were the two crucified with Jesus?


I think it may often be imagined that these are some guys who had been sitting around on death row for some time, and that their execution day was conveniently the same day as Jesus'. But it's wrong to imagine that the Romans let convicted insurrectionists/rebels/revoultionaries sit around on death row for long periods of time. Once a rebel was sentenced to death, they were nailed to a cross.

I think it's also important to understand that in the Roman world crucifixion was the punishment reserved for the most severe crimes against the state - ie, rebellion, treason, insurrection, murderers, etc... Common thieves were not crucified. The two criminals crucified alongside Jesus were most certainly rebels/revolutionaries/insurrectionists/traitors against Roman authority.

This leads to some interesting questions:

-What insurrection was Barabbas involved with?
-How does the criminal next to Jesus know if he's guilty or innocent and how is he able to tell Jesus to remember him? Did they already know each other before their meeting on the crosses?
-What are the possibilities that Jesus' action in the Temple and the scuffle in the garden the night of Jesus' arrest were a little more than we tend to think?

I think we imagine Jesus walking into the Temple, turning over a few tables, yelling some things about money and then walking out. This would have attracted little attention of the authorities, other than maybe make Jesus look a little crazy.

But if Jesus goes into the Temple with a mob of people waving palm branches and cheering him on as the Messiah (as the gospels say) and he goes into the Temple with the aid of his disciples, turns over all the tables, drives people out of the Temple (with whips no less in John 2), stops people from carrying things through the Temple courts (Mark 11:16, which would require more than 1 person to successfully carry out), then we have something significant that would disturb the authorities for good reason. Jesus essentially has a mob of people in a frenzy and he has stopped sacrifice in the Temple. This would (a) get the authorities attention and (b) have them afraid to arrest Jesus because of the mob supporting him.

About a week later, as Jesus and the disciples prepare to go from the Last Supper into the garden, some of the disciples grab swords (at least 2, Luke 22:35-38). Why does Luke even need to bring up this story at all? When Jesus is arrested in the garden, someone starts swinging a sword (John says it was Peter). Was Peter the only one swinging a sword and putting up a fight that night or is he the only one we're told about?

I tend to think that the criminals on either side of Jesus were condemned by Rome for insurrection/rebellion/treason and, though not one of the 12, were very likely followers/supporters of Jesus who were arrested during the events surrounding the Temple and/or the garden. Maybe Peter had really good reason to be afraid after Jesus was arrested? Why did the disciples go into hiding anyway? Maybe it was more than paranoia and someone was actually after them?

For Barabbas, there is only one known event around this time that could be used to charge him with insurrection.

Thoughts?
 
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I don't think so. Luke calls them criminals. He would not call fellow disciples criminals, but they would likely have been known by name and those names included in the text. Think of all the other names that appear for the first time during the crucifixion: Simon of Cyrene, Malchus, Barabbas (as you mentioned).

Also, I would expect some tradition along these lines, and I'm unaware of it. I would expect a medieval glorification of the story if such a tradition existed as that is what tended to happen. There would be a story of a Saint Thief-on-the-Cross who appeared to a lonely virgin girl in Padua in 1217 or something like that.

[edit] Oops. I guess there is such a thing: St. Dismas, which comes from the Infancy Gospel (yuck).
http://catholicexchange.com/saint-dismas

As for the disciples being afraid, I always thought it very justified. I've never heard it called paranoia before.
 
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The earliest synoptic gospel, that attributed to Mark, uses the Greek word, lestai (brigands) when describing the two men executed along with Jesus of Nazareth. The word is also employed by the writer of Matthew. It is precisely the same term used (by Josephus) to describe the Jewish agitators and resistance fighters against the Roman authorities in Judaea.

The author of Luke refers to them as, kakourgoi (evil doers - criminals) and the Johannine writer simply calls them, allous
duo (two others).

According to Mark (15: 6) a riot (stasis) had occurred (though apparently suppressed) and judging from the extraneous accounts provided by Josephus (Jewish War: 2 & Jewish Antiquities: 18), Pontius Pilatus had no apparent compunction about turning out his troops against recalcitrant and vociferous Jewish dissenters when ever and where ever he deemed it to be necessary.


The leader of this uprising was almost certainly the man known as Barabbas. Indeed, certain manuscripts of Matthew's Gospel give the variant reading [27: 16-17] as '
Jesus Barrabbas' and it has been plausibly suggested that Jesus of Nazareth and Jesus Barabbas may originally have been one and the same person.

The Passover Amnesty episode would itself appear to be a literary fabrication. There is no precedent for, nor evidence of, it from any extraneous Roman legal or historical source. Considering the contemporary turbulent political situation prevailing in Judaea, it seems most improbable that any such custom could have actually existed.


The Jewish religious authorities did not have the legal ability to execute anyone accused of a political offence. Jesus of Nazareth was arraigned, condemned and crucified by the Roman administration (on a charge of sedition) through the judicial authority of Pontius Pilatus the praefectus (military governor) of Judaea.

Native organs of government (like the Sanhedrin) had no direct power to execute capital sentences. The Romans removed all such rights and invested their own provincial magistrates with this jurisdiction (ius gladii). The Jerusalem Temple did of course have its own police force and this was used to maintain order within the holy precincts. The Jewish religious authorities were granted some degree of power to exert local legal control and punish malefactors.

The question of capital sentences imposed by the Sanhedrin is still a source of considerable scholarly contention. Literary and epigraphic evidence would appear to support the fact that such powers did exist, (regarding only infringements of Jewish Religious Law) but any such verdicts would have had to be ratified by the Roman governor.

Political offences were, however, retained strictly under direct Roman legal jurisdiction. Jesus of Nazareth had committed no crime against contemporary Jewish religious law. Claiming to be the son of God was nothing extraordinary in contemporary Judaism. All righteous Jews were believed to be God's sons.

Even if Jesus had actually claimed to be God, (which he never did), the offence would have been classified as idolatry (not blasphemy) and punished with a beating and strict admonition to desist from making such outrageous remarks. To claim, or being suspected of claiming, messianic status was by definition a political matter in the estimation of the authorities.

This was the only charge with which the Roman administration would have been concerned. The Jewish leaders were merely and perhaps with no great relish, handing Jesus over for the legal determination of the case in accordance with established Roman provincial procedure.

It should not be forgotten that the high priest was directly appointed by the Roman governor and held responsible for (what might now be described as) native affairs. Even the sacred Jewish religious vestments were kept under Roman military custody in the Antonia fortress adjoining the Temple and only handed over when required for use at the time of major religious festivals.


The fact that Jesus had been executed as a common criminal was extremely dangerous and a cause for great concern to the early Christian community in Rome following the catastrophic devastation of Jerusalem in 70 CE. He was therefore deliberately depicted as being pacific and non-political, in deference to the contemporary anti-Jewish feelings which pervaded Roman society at the termination of the first Jewish war, after the destruction of the Temple and the abolition of the Jewish national state.

The records of the trial of Jesus in all four Gospels, when viewed objectively, have a distinctly anti-Jewish tinge. They present in essence a contest between the Roman governor, who recognises the innocence of Jesus and seeks to save him, and the malevolent Jews intent on murdering their victim.

Indeed in John's Gospel, [19: 6-16] this contrast assumes the form of a cosmic dualistic drama. Pontius Pilatus endeavours to protect the “son of God” from the "children of the Devil" - for so are the Jews designated. (John 8: 44)

In Matthew's account, [27:24-26] this contrast was destined to have the most terrible consequences for later generations of Jews.

The actual historical reality was obviously very different from these tendentious, theological interpretations of the early gentile Christian Church, anxious to distance itself from any discernable taint of Jewish insurrection.

The crucifixion of Jesus was ordered by the Roman governor of Judaea, because he actually believed him to be guilty of sedition. Jesus of Nazareth had organised a triumphant, messianic entrance into Jerusalem and had attacked the Sadducean establishment of the Temple, which was pro-Roman. His activities there also appear to have coincided with what, in all probability, was a minor Jewish insurrection against the Romans.




 
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Right. For Barabbas and the two "others" at that time, there is a total lack of evidence for an insurrection of any sort.....except one. That one being the one that involved Jesus in the temple. I don't know that I would say the gospels are downplaying what's going on as much as I would say they are giving their perspective on the matter. But irregardless, it seems to me that what's happening in the temple is more than just Jesus being angry at some money changers. Jesus has a mob at his back and they've seemingly stopped sacrifices. Further, the teachings surrounding this episode in the gospels, and so likely the best key to understanding what's happening, has to do with the destruction of Jerusalem and the temple. It seems then that Jesus is leading something closer to a riot than an angry sermon against money changers. I think I would say Jesus was the leader of this incident and possibly the others picked up in the ruckus.

This would completely explain the two "others" and Barabbas (unless one opts for the idea that Barabbas was a literary construct). Essentially they are rounded up after the temple incident and crucified with Jesus.

And thanks for your thoughtful input. I've come to experience anything but.
 
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I don't know that a medieval legend would be sufficient to conclude anything at all.

As for the disciples being afraid, I always thought it very justified. I've never heard it called paranoia before.

Given my ~30 years in the church, it was just an impression I had that the disciples seemed more paranoid in their fears than justified in their fears. So admittedly it could just be a shortcoming in my own experience.
 
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The Church distinguishes between saints (which those in Christ are) and Saints. The tradition of Dismas being the name of thief on the Cross who went to heaven would be that of a Patron saint which is a third category and make sense, since he was sentenced to death that he be labeled the Patron of those likewise sentenced to die.
 
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This is interesting Yekcidmij because some things would fit. Jesus was being praised by the people one day, then cursed and spit on the next...because he allowed himself to get arrested. Their always had to be 'Promised Messiah' followers with a zealot slant (which I for some time believe Judas Iscariot was a full blown zealot). Why would people cheer to see a brutal murderer go (Barabbas)?? They turned on Jesus for the same reason that they liked Barabbas, it was the hated Roman soldiers that he murdered, they liked Barabbas and they hated the 'Coward' Jesus who gave up. It does makes sense. How can it not be possible that swords started flying in the garden, multiple soldiers were killed, and Jesus' words to Peter was along the context of "Not you Peter (you know better)!"? The whole Bible is chock full of a few verses that only touch on part of the story. And this would also explain why none of the (non-zealot sword yielding) 12 were on crosses next to Jesus.

Jesus knows that he will get arrested, well why can't it be that Jesus knows the heart of the men following him, Jesus knows that they will go overboard when they confront the money changers. If this is the way it went down the 2 men at the cross with Jesus makes complete sense! Obviously it's very probable that one of them would hang on to their angry zealot roots whereas the 2nd one would submit to Jesus' message knowing his end is at hand. And in addition obviously they would know all about Jesus too, they were the ones who THOUGHT that the real Jesus mission was going to unfold when Jesus orchestrated the overthrow of Rome. I like this theory a lot!!!
 
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Jesus overturned tables on his first Passover (John 2). He was Crucified on his 3rd Passover, 2 years later.

there were many riots under Pilate. He was sent in by Sejanus to deal with all of the unrest caused by the arrival of the prophesied time of the messiah according to Daniel
 
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Barabbas is one form of the scape goat

the two thieves on either side of the cross represent the two opposites ( blessing & cursing/ good & evil ) in relation to knowledge gathered by that which is outside of self ...
 
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Some years ago I researched and delivered the sermon below:

WHO WAS BARABBAS? (The Biblical Roots of Ant-Semitism)
 
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Not sure why it took me so long to return to this thread. Must have forgotten about it...but I got interested in Barabbas again.

Yes, there is a theory out there that Barabbas wasn't a real person and that the tradition of releasing a prisoner didn't exist either.

There is also another theory out there that Barabbas and Jesus were one and the same [1] as some manuscripts could imply. On this view, Jesus was known in Galilee as bar Abbas as one of the popular themes in his teachings was calling Israel's God, "Abba." On this view, the gospels together actually portray 2 trials for Jesus. In the first, Jesus goes before Pilate as Jesus bar Abbas on religious charges that enraged the Sanhedrin (probably to do with his claims about his relationship with 'Abba' and/or things he said when in front of the Sanhedrin). But Pilate had little to no interest in Jewish religious charges for a religious teacher, especially when he was popular with the crowds who wanted his release, so Pilate claims he doesn't have jurisdiction and releases Jesus bar Abbas, or possibly releases him back to the Jewish leadership on jurisdictional grounds. So the Jerusalem leadership, possibly with assistance and guidance from Herod, bring up other charges on claiming to be the Messiah, the King of Israel, and relate those charges to whatever happened during the "cleansing" of the temple. They bring Jesus before Pilate again, this time as Jesus the Christ.. Now this charge would have interested Pilate as it was a political charge of sedition.

Another possibility is that Barabbas is in fact mentioned elsewhere, but he is known as either Barnabas (Paul's travel buddy) or Barsabbas (Acts 1:23, 15:22).

It's also noteworthy that a tradition about releasing prisoners during a religious festival was not unknown in the ancient world [2]. So a tradition about Pilate releasing a prisoner wouldn't be out of bounds.


[1] Rigg, Horace. Barnabas. Journal of Biblical Literature 64/4.
Davies, Stevan. Who is Called Barabbas. New Testament Studies 27.

[2] Merritt, Robert. Jesus Barnabas and the Paschal Pardon. Journal of Biblical Literature 104/1.
 
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Jesus overturned tables on his first Passover (John 2). He was Crucified on his 3rd Passover, 2 years later.

I don't think John has arranged the temple episode chronologically. I think there was only one temple incident and it was just prior to his crucifixion.
 
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I don't think John has arranged the temple episode chronologically. I think there was only one temple incident and it was just prior to his crucifixion.

I do not think that John the Evangelist was an eyewitness. Moreover, writing 60 or more years after the fact, it is not surprising that he got the chronology messed up.
 
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I don't think John has arranged the temple episode chronologically. I think there was only one temple incident and it was just prior to his crucifixion.
what would be an objective criterion to discern one way or another?
 
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what would be an objective criterion to discern one way or another?

What do you mean by "objective criterion?" I'm not sure what you expect or would find acceptable.

I think Matthew, Mark and Luke portray the temple cleansing during Jesus' last week, and this seems consistent with reasons around his arrest and trial. Given that John only portrays one temple cleansing episode, it looks like he's just not arranged it chronologically - for whatever reason - whereas Matthew, Mark and Luke did. I can't seem to find a good reason to posit multiple temple cleansings.
 
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I do not think that John the Evangelist was an eyewitness.

Maybe. There's certainly no way to conclusively prove that he was. I have seen arguments elsewhere, though I can't recall where at the moment, that he seems to know Jerusalem geography in such a way that would indicate someone possibly living in, or spent considerable time in or even from, Jerusalem. I think the original audience would have thought the author was Lazarus, but that's a minority view.

Moreover, writing 60 or more years after the fact, it is not surprising that he got the chronology messed up.

I'm not convinced his chronology is "messed up" so much as he's just not arranging events chronologically, for whatever reason. There doesn't seem to be an rule that says authors must always arrange events chronologically, so I'm not sure why the default conclusion would be that he messed it up.
 
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The Gospel of Matthew and the Gospel of Luke both seem to have used the Gospel of Mark as a major source. I suspect that John the Evangelist had to have been aware of at least one of the three but he seem to have relied almost exclusively on other source material.
 
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given the corruption of the temple, think the message is a dog returning to it's own vomit
 
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given the corruption of the temple, think the message is a dog returning to it's own vomit

I'm not sure that's the best analogy for Jesus going to the temple twice... In any case, an analogy isn't reason.
 
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