The trinity

Fares said:

Read them and dont ignore the truth :

http://www.christiananswers.net/q-eden/edn-t005.html

this link will show you that the Bible clearly say that Jesus is God ! I hope you will see the truth brother !

http://www.new-life.net/faq202.htm

And stop calling me hemar ya deb lol ! !

Jesus will save you eventually !

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your links did not answer my question

yaqovzadeek, please read my words a little more clearly... I said:

DjDan said:

Mormons believe that Jesus is the Son of God. He, being the only begotten in the flesh, works with God in everything he does.

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I contest that Jesus Christ was and is the only begotten in the flesh.

Do you know what that means?

Beget: (Begotten - past tense)

1. To father; sire.
2. To cause to exist or occur; produce: Violence begets more violence.

Isn't he the father of our spirits? Are we not all therefore begotten of him?

But in the flesh.. there is but one. Jesus Christ. Jesus Christ was born into this world of God, and Mary his mother. How was David born? wasn't he already alive when he wrote those Psalms from which you quote? how could he be physically begotten (in the flesh) at that moment? he wasn't. He wasn't begotten of God in the flesh. He was born of mortal parents. In regard to the word "begotten" in that quote.... it is spiritual. Because spiritually.... we are all begotten of God.

Originally Posted by Fares
In otherwords the Word of God !
God is Jesus in flesh !
So when I say I worship God, it is obvious I worship Jesus as well, because they are One !

We are all sons of God, he is our spiritual Father and leader !

You are a lost case !

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Originally Posted by Fares
We worship only one God ! Our Father !

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You seem to be contradicting yourself. Are you saying Jesus is the father,
When he prays the lords prayer is he praying to himself?

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How is he contradicting himself?

If YHWH and His Christ are ONE, how can you not pray to one without they Other?

Another words, an avacado has a large seed in it. If you buy the avacado, you also have to take the seed also,correct?
If you set it up as an "idol", you can't pray to the avacado and seed seperate.

LightOfEyes said:

Yahh.

When GOD was in the garden of Gethsemane he fell on his face and Prayed to another GOD asking the other GOD :

Mt 26:39 O my Father, if it be possible, let this cup pass from me: nevertheless not as I will, but as thou wilt.
This GOD did not function according to his will but to that of the Other GOd. His life was in the hands of the other GOD. This GOD sweated Blood and sweat(like a human) while Praying to that GOD.
In the end that GOD did not listen to the Prayers of this GOD and this GOD was killed by the Creation that the other GOD created. And this GOD even called the other GOD
Mt 27:46 And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? that is to say, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?
But the other GOD ignored him and he said it is finished and died.

lol.

Peace.
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That's not a correct interpretation of what went on there. His prayers weren't ignored. He was praying because he did have some fear, he prayed to have the cup pass from him, but ultimately he realizes he must do this; he must keep the cup.

And when he said "My God, My God, why have you forsaken me?" he was NOT saying that God abandoned him. He was referencing Psalm 22, which starts off with those exact words. He was referencing it because it refers to his death- a prophecy written hundreds of years before.

Thread necromancy is lame!

Here is the easiest way that I can seem to explain the trinity.

There is one God. He is all powerful. He exists beyond all comprehension of our simple minds. Do you agree?

If so, then is it not possible that God can exist in three places? For instance, God in heaven, or the "father", God in spirit, or the Holy spirity, and God in flesh, or the son. Don't let father and son make you think of our concept of father and son. Those terms just show that God in heaven is boundless, and all that, but God in flesh, aka Jesus was subject to authority from above, as he was fully human, but still full divine. How can God be in the flesh, many muslims ask me. Doesn't that question limit his powers? He is limitless, and can do anything, even coming to earth and taking up flesh, being called yeshua, or saviour, and live a perfect life, as an example as to how we should live, then die for us, and make it possible that we are in constant fellowship with Him. God can do anything. Don't forget that.