Starting today August 7th, 2024, in order to post in the Married Couples, Courting Couples, or Singles forums, you will not be allowed to post if you have your Marital status designated as private. Announcements will be made in the respective forums as well but please note that if yours is currently listed as Private, you will need to submit a ticket in the Support Area to have yours changed.
You have no facts that are posted.It is pointless trying to argue with Dad. He doesn't allow himself to be constrained by mere facts, and he makes up hypotheses as he goes along.
Great, so show evidence that it was the same (or is) in deep space. Simple. Walk the walk.
I am ready to answer...you don't know as your posts show.If you did physics at school, as MissRowy asked, you already have the answer to that.
But I'm not going to bother explaining it to you when you are going to ignore it anyway.
If the answer to that question is indistingsuishable from the answer of "what properties would naturally evolving living systems with a natural origin have?", then your "criteria" for detecting design in living systems would be entirely useless to actually detect design.
If the designed and the natural looks exactly alike, then what is the actual difference?
The proof is that science cannot prove or support the foundational belief in a same nature and laws in the past. That proves beyond any doubt they have just a belief.Then what are you waiting for? Present your proof.
The proof is that science cannot prove or support the foundational belief in a same nature and laws in the past. That proves beyond any doubt they have just a belief.
No one needs to prove a belief. Those folks in willful denial will reject the proofs of Scripture God gave. So I don't ask for proof in that dept, because they can never ever ever have any till they are willing to repent and believe.
To recap...science has no proof, and nothing else matters here. Hahaha
According to YECs, the universe is only 6,000 years old, and that is well within recorded history.
Whatever combination of forces and laws were in place were just perfect and fine. We don't know what they were but we know the Lawmaker! Now a change in nature may have resulted in planets being where they are, and a change in the distance of the moon from earth or etc etc. So many exciting new ways to interpret evidences if only fake news science would get out of the stuck in the mud rut they are in.So, if the laws of nature were different in the past, might we not have heard about people floating off into space because gravity was too weak to hold them on the Earth's surface?
Whatever combination of forces and laws were in place were just perfect and fine. We don't know what they were but we know the Lawmaker!
Interestingly, there is a creationist argument that shows dad to be wrong... and he never even tries to adress it: The Fine-Tuning-Argument.Oh, I get it. It was God's very first universe, and he didn't quite get it right the first time, so he thought he had better adjust the laws of nature, and have another go.
I take it that comes from chapter 10 of the Book of Dad.
Is there no end to the contortions YECs will go through, to try and defend their position?
No. The earth needed some changes after the fall. Then at the flood. Like a prison that was minimum security converted to maximum security for proven dangerous sinners. Man needed maybe to live less time to do less damage etc. We will see changes in the coming millennium. That is the modus operandi of the Almighty.Oh, I get it. It was God's very first universe, and he didn't quite get it right the first time, so he thought he had better adjust the laws of nature, and have another go.
The proof is that science cannot prove or support the foundational belief in a same nature and laws in the past. That proves beyond any doubt they have just a belief.
No one needs to prove a belief. Those folks in willful denial will reject the proofs of Scripture God gave. So I don't ask for proof in that dept, because they can never ever ever have any till they are willing to repent and believe.
To recap...science has no proof, and nothing else matters here. Hahaha
You can when all you are trying to show is that they don't know what they are talking about! I just want to show that science had no authority to overrule God after all.No.
You cannot say that your proof is an alleged inability of something else.
No need to get my belief accepted right now and here. Once we see science is fake news in the creation dept, then the battle is over.Putting down an opposing viewpoint is not support for your own viewpoint.
It could be something rather subtle, like programming on the DNA itself.
You can when all you are trying to show is that they don't know what they are talking about! I just want to show that science had no authority to overrule God after all.
No need to get my belief accepted right now and here. Once we see science is fake news in the creation dept, then the battle is over.
We are not talking point of view here, but what is taught as truth and fact.
Yes. You make science claims and provide no evidence. You also pretend you did somewhere, and that you can't show us where. How evidence of science claims on origin issues work is that they have no evidence!Do you understand how evidence works?
Not one that doesn't actually!There is not a single observation that supports your position.
If science doesn't know why would you ask for support? What, you want bible?And I'm still waiting for you to provide supporting evidence.
Yes. You make science claims and provide no evidence. You also pretend you did somewhere, and that you can't show us where. How evidence of science claims on origin issues work is that they have no evidence!
Not one that doesn't actually!
If science doesn't know why would you ask for support? What, you want bible?
Sure sure, we know...but you can't post it or the link to a post where you presented it. You wonder why people can't 'recognize it? Cause we can't FIND it!I have provided a ton of evidence. You seem to be incapable of recognising it.
NO ONE can with science. It is too small to be able to cover such issues save in the religious belief based way we see done.On the other hand, you CAN'T make evidence, because you have none.
All do, including history and bible.There is not a single observation that supports your position.
Congrats, at least you use the word reality. Impressive.I prefer reality. You got any of that?
Sure sure, we know...but you can't post it or the link to a post where you presented it. You wonder why people can't 'recognize it? Cause we can't FIND it!
NO ONE can with science. It is too small to be able to cover such issues save in the religious belief based way we see done.
All do, including history and bible.
Congrats, at least you use the word reality. Impressive.
That didn't answer nore acknowledge the point I made.
We use cookies and similar technologies for the following purposes:
Do you accept cookies and these technologies?
We use cookies and similar technologies for the following purposes:
Do you accept cookies and these technologies?