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so you cant detect design just by looking at this image? :
In THAT image, sure.
You can't tell by just looking at a picture and "imagining" that it has the traits of a living creature. What are you going to do in future when it becomes possible to genetically engineer living creatures? How are you going to tell a designed creature from a naturally ocurring one?but why you call it a watch if i said that in this case it has living traits? according to your criteria its not a watch but a creature.
but why you call it a watch if i said that in this case it has living traits?
according to your criteria its not a watch but a creature.
You can't tell by just looking at a picture and "imagining" that it has the traits of a living creature. What are you going to do in future when it becomes possible to genetically engineer living creatures? How are you going to tell a designed creature from a naturally ocurring one?
since no one can prove that a creature can eolve naturally there is no such a thing as naturally ocurring creature.You can't tell by just looking at a picture and "imagining" that it has the traits of a living creature. What are you going to do in future when it becomes possible to genetically engineer living creatures? How are you going to tell a designed creature from a naturally ocurring one?
OK, now what? There is no God and no nature--all creatures are manufactured in a big factory someplace?since no one can prove that a creature can eolve naturally there is no such a thing as naturally ocurring creature.
The watch depicted in the picture you posted, is just a watch like any other. Not a living thing.
Here's what you said in that post:
so you cant detect design just by looking at this image?
You didn't say anything in that post about it having any living traits. You just posted a picture of a watch and asked if I could detect design in THAT specific picture.
I answered your question. What is the problem?
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Please answer our question first. If the watch has the trait of free will, is it a person?yep. why not? its a theoretical question. so this is a watch or not if it has living traits?
In the factory of Eden, I guess.OK, now what? There is no God and no nature--all creatures are manufactured in a big factory someplace?
yep. why not? its a theoretical question.
"I don't know" is a conclusion one must often come to when trying to detect the presence of design. The only way to tell for sure that an object is designed is to find evidence of human manufacture. Otherwise "I don't know" is the only possible conclusion.and you said "I don't know"
actually i said that in this case there is no selection pressure in this case since there is no advantage to a single part without the other one. so this is indeed a random event or very close to.
I can't prove that you are obtuse and not listening to what others are telling you. But the preponderance of evidence supports that conclusion.since no one can prove that a creature can eolve naturally there is no such a thing as naturally ocurring creature.
so what? so the evidence doesnt fit well with evolution. also: what about the analogy i talked about? this analogy prove that we cant prove the evolution of whale by order in their fossils. and i have many other evidence against it.So what? Life is messy.
It is completely irrelevant to evolution. As I already stated, evolution has NO GOAL. What is more adaptive procreates more. That's it.so what? so the evidence doesnt fit well with evolution.
The evolution of whales is one of the best documented in the fossil record. If you can't see the progression of transitional forms, I don't know what to tell ya.also: what about the analogy i talked about? this analogy prove that we cant prove the evolution of whale by order in their fossils. and i have many other evidence against it.
i actually asked you before: "so now lets go to the main part of detecting design, do you think that this object is evidence for design if it had a self replicating system and organic component?"
and you said "I don't know"
so if you missed it let me ask you again. do you think that this object is evidence for design if it had living traits?:
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