With what body did Jesus resurrect Lazarus? It was a physical body, wasn't it.
What body will an unrighteous person be resurrected with? An earthly body, isn't it? John 5:28, 29; Revelation 20:12
Since the righteous do not all go to heaven, but will be right here on earth, they need earthly bodies, don't they. Daniel 7:13, 14, 27; John 11:24; Revelation 21:3, 4
Yes, there were some bodily resurrections, these are prior to “The Resurrection”, Jesus talked about and the other writers wrote about. These body resurrections happened shortly after death and are not “The Resurrection” we are talking about and to exist for very long on earth you might need an earthly body.
Rev. 20:11…
The earth and the heavens fled from his presence, and there was no place for them. How are you interpreting that?
Rev. 20: 12 And I saw the dead, great and small,
standing before the throne, and books were opened. Another book was opened, which is the book of life.
The dead were judged according to what they had done as recorded in the books. 13
The sea gave up the dead that were in it, and
death and Hades gave up the dead that were in them, and
each person was judged according to what they had done. 14 Then death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. The lake of fire is the second death. 15 Anyone whose name was not found written in the book of life was thrown into the lake of fire.
This “thrown” is not here on earth so can physical flesh stand before the thrown of God?
There is nothing saying anything about the risen having physical bodies.
John 5: 28 “Do not be amazed at this, for a time is coming
when all who are in their graves will hear his voice 29
and come out—those who have done what is good will rise to live, and those who have done what is evil will rise to be condemned.
Dan. 7: 14… His dominion is an everlasting dominion that will not pass away, and his kingdom is one that will never be destroyed.
This everlasting dominion is not talking about the 1000 year reign, because it lasts 1000 years, but the Spiritual Kingdom we have now and forever.
Dan, 7: 27 Then the sovereignty, power and greatness of all the kingdoms under heaven will be handed over to the holy people of the Most High. His kingdom will be an everlasting kingdom, and all rulers will worship and obey him.’
Again, this is the Spiritual Kingdom in existence right now, the earthly “kingdoms” are powerless against the Spiritual Kingdom.
John 11:24 Martha answered, “I know he will rise again in the resurrection at the last day.” 25 Jesus said to her, “
I am the resurrection and the life. The one who believes in me will live,
even though they die; 26 and
whoever lives by believing in me will never die.
There is nothing about a bodily resurrection, in fact they can “die”, the physical body can die, but they will continue to live (something other than what died.
Rev. 21:1 Then I saw “a new heaven and a new earth, “for the
first heaven and the first earth had passed away, and
there was no longer any sea.
This “New heaven and earth” are not the old heaven and earth, since it passed away! But are you not saying the “New heaven and Earth are the sane earth we live on today?
Rev. 21: 2 … I saw the Holy City, the new Jerusalem,
coming down out of heaven from God.
This is not saying it descended to our old earth since that “earth past away”.
Rev. 21: 3 And I heard a loud voice from the throne saying, “Look! God’s dwelling place is now among the people, and he will dwell with them.
They will be his people, and God himself
will be with them and be their God. 4 ‘He will wipe every tear from their eyes. There will be
no more death’ or mourning or crying or pain, for
the old order of things has passed away.”
This is to last “forever”, but the 1000 year reign does not last forever and there are bad people during the 1000 year reign, but there are no bad people in the New Jerusalem?
Jesus does not say there is any difference in what rises from the grave: good and evil they “hear and come out”. Those completely burned up or totally rooted away will hear and come out. There will be nothing physically left in the grave of some, so it has to be a “new body” for both?
I’m only addressing the “bodies” resurrected which Jesus and Paul talked about at “The Resurrection
The choice to obey God, or not, yes. Revelation 20:12-15
There are no refusers in the New Jerusalem, so how can there be a choice?
If a person choses not to accept (or obey), what are they choosing to do in the 1000 years and after?
Concerning those who go to heaven to reign with Christ for the 1,000 years, the scriptures say...
Philippians 3:20, 21
But our citizenship is in heaven, and we eagerly await a Savior from there, the Lord Jesus Christ, who, by the power that enables Him to subject all things to Himself, will transform our lowly bodies to be like His glorious body.
1 Corinthians 15:49, 50
And as we have borne the image of the earthly, we shall also bear the image of the heavenly.
Now I say this, brothers, that flesh and blood is not able to inherit the kingdom of God, nor does decay inherit immortality.
There are others. Romans 8:29; 2 Corinthians 5:1-5
Those adopted sons Ephesians 1:5 - heirs of the kingdom James 2:5, are not we.
Ephesians 1:5 - He predestined us for adoption to himself as sons through Jesus Christ, according to the purpose of his will,
Paul was speaking to the Church - the body of Christ, who make up the little flock, the Father took delight to give the kingdom.
I am only asking about these “people” in the 1000 year reign, since I see this talking about all the saved.
These are not the multitude, that is mentioned at Revelation 7:9, who were not sealed for heavenly adoption, as those mentioned in Revelation 7:1-4.
What do you mean “not sealed for adoption”, because John specifically tells us who they are: Rev. 7: 13 Then one of the elders asked me, “These in white robes—who are they, and where did they come from?”
14 I answered, “Sir, you know.”
And he said, “These are they who have come out of the great tribulation; they have washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb. 15 Therefore,
“they are before the throne of God
and serve him day and night in his temple;
and he who sits on the throne
will shelter them with his presence.
16 ‘Never again will they hunger;
never again will they thirst.
The sun will not beat down on them,’[a]
nor any scorching heat.
17 For the Lamb at the center of the throne
will be their shepherd;
‘he will lead them to springs of living water.’
‘And God will wipe away every tear from their eyes.’[c]”
Rev. 7: 3 “Do not harm the land or the sea or the trees until we put a seal on the foreheads of the servants of our God.”
But there is no sea in the New Jerusalem, so this cannot be the same place?
These are not the multitude, that is mentioned at Revelation 7:9, who were not sealed for heavenly adoption, as those mentioned in Revelation 7:1-4.
Those living on earth will not have spiritual bodies, but they will be flesh, just like the animals. 1 Corinthians 15:39-41
So let us go back to the answer Jesus gave when asked about the marital status of the woman married legally to seven brothers. Jesus said at the resurrection they are no longer sexual being but like the angels, but you are saying after the resurrection there are people that are not angel like, but human like so they are sexual, which contradicts Jesus’ argument, so did Jesus mislead (lie to) the Sadducees? What should the answer be for those in the 1000 year reign?
You are leaving out the answer by jumping to 1 Cor. 15:39, Paul gives the answer just prior: 1 Cor. 15: 35 But someone will ask, “How are the dead raised? With what kind of body will they come?” 36 How foolish! What you sow does not come to life unless it dies. 37 When you sow, you do not plant the body that will be, but just a seed, perhaps of wheat or of something else. 38 But God gives it a body as he has determined, and to each kind of seed he gives its own body.
The person asking is asking about all people, Paul saying: “What you sow does not come to life unless it dies”, does not just apply to Christians, but everyone who dies.
Where did you get this from? Please provide the scripture.
It is hard to find scripture on what is happening in your understanding of the 1000 year reign, since there is none.
So, you think the purpose for God creating the earth, is as a testing ground, to get a ticket to heaven?
WOW! Not at all!!! We are here to humbly accept God’s pure undeserving charity, so we will Love like He Loves and then Love others. (Luke 7)
It is more like a learning opportunity, to see if we want or do not want to be Loved and to Love.
We have no scripture suggesting the angels previously existed in an earth like situation, so if they did start out in heaven they were created beings sinless to begin with, which does present some problems. The biggest issue is with obtaining, initially Godly type Love, how can they do that? All mature humans while on earth will sin so, they can humbly accept God’s forgiveness as pure undeserved charity and thus automatically Love much (Luke 7), but in heaven there are no likely alternatives to accepting God’s forgiveness, so it is like having a gun to your head (not a real choice). Godly type Love is not an instinctive Love/robotic nor can it be forced on a being and still be Godly type Love. You must want to be Loved unselfishly and want to be able to Love others unselfishly. It looks like a third of the angels did not want this.
What is the difference between heaven and earth, when it comes to sinning?
Earth is the very best place for mature adult humans to obtain Godly type Love and grow that Love.
Everyone being a sexless being in heaven, eliminates the conflict in obtaining a mate, since you do not have a mate.
The only gifts one person in heaven has over another person is the amount of Love they have, but that just means they Love you more than you Love them back, so nothing to envy.
I do not see your Father God holding anything back from you in heaven, so what is there to covet.
Satan the tempter is not there, and you have experienced him and know the result.
You have sinned and know the result.
There is no tree of knowledge to tempt you.
Right now, we Have the Spirit at our elbow literally, but we do not see Spiritual beings all the time and can easily quench the Spirit, but with our new Spiritual bodies we will see the Spirit at our elbow and would have to push Him away to sin.
You have an excellent realization of what it is to be God (a huge sacrificial Love), so since He loves you, what would you gain by taking His place? While on earth we might covet the leader’s power and position, but how could you covet “Love”?
Some persons think there will be a resurrection after the 1,000 years, but based on the scriptures, this cannot be true, since the first resurrection is for the Saints - 1 Corinthians 15:51-57; 1 Thessalonians 4:15-17; Revelation 20:4, 6.The second resurrection takes place in the hour during the 1,000 years. John 5:28, 29; Revelation 20:12-14
Judgment occurs during the 1,000 years. not after. John 5:29
You are too fixated on heaven, but I understand. It was drilled into my head from a young age too, but I did not hold on to it, since the scriptures said something quite different to what the church teaches.
I am fixated on Christ and God no matter where I am. Your description of this 1000 year reign place, lacks the huge benefits of heaven and this earth now. What happens to the indwelling Holy Spirit during this 1000 year reign? What is my objective and how do I fulfill that objective over the 1000 years?
That was in reference to rulership. The kingdom of God, which Christ will hand over to his father, after he has accomplished everything, and God will rule both heaven and earth.
That is in Ephesians 1:10
I hope you got the point.
God gives each a body accordingly.
So, those resurrected to heaven will get the appropriate body - a spirit body.
those resurrected to earth will get a human body - earthly.
Do these people resurrected with a “human body”, ever get a Spiritual body and how and when does that happen?