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Asking you how you assess progress in spiritual understanding is "knit-picking"? Asking you how you determine which concepts are inadequate and which have merit is "knit-picking"? It doesn't matter to you?
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Asking you how you assess progress in spiritual understanding is "knit-picking"? Asking you how you determine which concepts are inadequate and which have merit is "knit-picking"? It doesn't matter to you?This was the answer I gave you before you got out the "knit picking stick" again:
In order to find spiritual truth one must search in spirit, but you want the end of the adventure before you start the search. I'm in the adventure, I'm in the search, I cannot prove to you the discoveries I have made so far other than share bits of wisdom and encouragement. You are trying to use science to analyze spirit.
This I can say with certainty, once a person begins their search in earnest for God, they have already found him. Going forward they will come to know him better.
Ah, I see. Sorry, I misread it earlier. I missed the word "think".Answer the question. Would you destroy the concepts of a 5 year old child because they don't think like you, or would you allow them to grow up?
That's true, that's a fair point, that was a change. I'm referring more to considering things that you may not have considered, like the Christian religion of Paul isn't the same thing as the gospel of Jesus 3 years before the cross? stuff like that.You mean that the change I resisted when I went from Christian of 40 years, to not being a Christian.
I think that would qualify as a change and a change that required me to have an open mind and accept and recognize new knowledge I did not possess.
That's true, that's a fair point, that was a change. I'm referring more to considering things that you may not have considered, like the Christian religion of Paul isn't the same thing as the gospel of Jesus 3 years before the cross? stuff like that.
A change for me was realizing that some of what I didn't believe at all in the OT was based on real events, but interpreted inaccurately by the authors of so called scripture and further distorted by redactions by later generations.
Ah, I see. Sorry, I misread it earlier. I missed the word "think".
As I stated in another discussion, I would encourage the child to ask questions and investigate.
And you know what I have or haven't considered how exactly?
Which brings us back to my previous questions; the very same questions you dismissed as "knit-picking."Right, that's true of spirituality, it's not appropriate for me to tell a guy or gal in Zambia that they are wrong about their spiritual perceptions. I should be willing to ask, learn and share, see what we have in common --->I<---- can learn from them, perhaps they from me. This attitude represents and advance in religious evolution. It should be our hope that future generations would be able to adopt this Liberal approach but for now a gallon cannot fit into a quart. Change s very slow in religion.
Right, that's true of spirituality, it's not appropriate for me to tell a guy or gal in Zambia that they are wrong about their spiritual perceptions. I should be willing to ask, learn and share, see what we have in common --->I<---- can learn from them, perhaps they from me. This attitude represents an advance in religious evolution. It should be our hope that future generations would be able to adopt this Liberal approach but for now a gallon cannot fit into a quart. Change is very slow in religion.
Which brings us back to my previous questions; the very same questions you dismissed as "knit-picking."
I already responded to this:This was my answer, don't have anymore answer.
Live and let live.
In the fellowship of faith we don't need to critically analyze the God concept of another or define it with doctrines or creeds. On an evolutionary world, in time and in space, from Gods perspective we are a work in progress. That could be said to be part of Gods plan for mortals.
You cannot claim it is a work in progress if you cannot actually demonstrate any significant progress in our understanding. We can only progress in our understanding if we admit the possibility of error and critically examine whether the claims are credible. How do we do that?Live and let live.
In the fellowship of faith we don't need to critically analyze the God concept of another or define it with doctrines or creeds. On an evolutionary world, in time and in space, from Gods perspective we are a work in progress.
How do we identify which of these concepts are inadequate and which have merit?However inadequate our current concepts may be, what we are is not as important as what we are becoming.
Colter, it seems as though you are saying that it doesn't matter whether someone is wrong about the divine; it doesn't even matter how wrong they are, so long as they have faith. I find this remarkable, but not in a good way. Don't you care about the truth?
In practice, it seems to be a pathway to conflicting claims of knowledge.
Change s very slow in religion.
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