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How about explaining this part, since in my ignorance I have no idea what you are talking about...we will rightly see Christ kingdom began during the reign of the scriptural 11th Roman emperor Nerva
Thank you. What should I have used instead of "Palestine"?
Wait, what?Refer to it as.... Nation of Hebrews .....
.................is stuck in the dogma and blinded to the truth of the Lord's Word
And your made up ides of dual covenant theology is a total ruse
Arguing with P is an exercise in futility Winken
This one has been taught by the largest preteristic "church" in the business
.... and he cannot divest .... P is stuck the dogma and blinded to the truth of the Lord's Word
It is possible for P to escape, but unlikely
The preterist view can be demonstrated to be wrong by a straightforward reading of Rev. 6 & ff. None of that stuff has happened yet.Debating the ISSUES and SCRIPTURES with SS is also an exercise in futility, for he will always resort to a PERSONAL attack on the folks the holding a different view than his, (as you see above) instead of opening the Bible and demonstrating with scripture why he believes the VIEW is wrong.
Even though any "straightforward reading" would understand and accept that it was ordained by God to take place "Shortly" after John was given the vision, for the "time was near" (Rev 1:1-3)?The preterist view can be demonstrated to be wrong by a straightforward reading of Rev. 6 & ff. None of that stuff has happened yet.
My intention is not to "get you", but rather to be true to the Word. You & I both know that words like "shortly" and "near" really don't mean much to us because it's God's timing that counts. I should also point out that the word translated "near" (Strong's G1451) is translated "ready" in Heb. 8:13 (ESV). I like this word better because even we futurists believe that everything is "ready" for the Lord's return, i.e., it's the next event on the prophetic calendar.Even though any "straightforward reading" would understand and accept that it was ordained by God to take place "Shortly" after John was given the vision, for the "time was near" (Rev 1:1-3)?
Ok then. I guess you got me.
My intention is not to "get you", but rather to be true to the Word. You & I both know that words like "shortly" and "near" really don't mean much to us because it's God's timing that counts. I should also point out that the word translated "near" (Strong's G1451) is translated "ready" in Heb. 8:13 (ESV). I like this word better because even we futurists believe that everything is "ready" for the Lord's return, i.e., it's the next event on the prophetic calendar.
Yes, He means "near" there. Don't forget, the Discourse is broken in two parts -- a historical part and a future part. (Feel free to download the document I referred to in an earlier post.) What He's saying in 24:33 is that when you see these future signs take place, He is right at the door. He's not saying when the historical signs take place it's near, but the future signs. Besides, you know as well as I do that we need to interpret unclear passages in terms of the clearer ones. Rev. 6 & ff. is quite clear. The Olivet Discourse is quite a bit more challenging.Mathew 24:33
33 So you also, when you see all these things, know that it is near—at the doors!
You are telling me Jesus doesn't mean "near" in the plain human sense here, but rather "near" in God's time?
It's the same Strong's 1451.
And you cannot break His covenant with Israel no matter how much you howl about it .... it stands .... past, present, and future
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