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Not wrong but a different style of speaking, like poetry, epic story or even stories like Job or Jonah. No need to take it all literal. How does one decide literal from figurative? I think that is where one's church is helpful for leadership.
Going back to the stars,
if this is supposed to be the truth:
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That we are orbiting around a sun that is traveling 448,000 mph through space.
Then throughout the generations of man, we should have been seeing the stars move, and different stars.
Polaris should have moved from where it is by now. It should not remain generally in the center through thousands of years.
Even ancient peoples tracked Aquarius and the other constellations in the same positions they are in today.
If the picture is accurate, Polaris should not be in the same general spot it has always been.So the observer would also be moving along also. So they'd see something different.
Technically sunlight isn't parallel
Not the earth, the sun.So, it doesn't really matter if earth is moving through space at 45 mph, 450,000 mph or 4.5 million mph**. If everything else is doing the same speeds, then the frame of reference is essentially static for everyone involved.
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The horizon line we see anywhere, has to do with perspective.
The door at the end of the hall is not smaller than the door closest to us, even though it looks so.
Same for the lights and lockers.
What we see is due to perspective. This is true with the sun and moon also, as they travel far away from us.
Horizon.
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Yes vanishing point, the same principle applies as we look at things outside.
As stated before, one could not look all the way to the other side of the Gotthard tunnel,
even though it is perfectly flat and level the whole entire way.
Your eye would only see so much, before the vanishing point.
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Can anyone explain what they did to account for the "curvature" of the earth as they built the 35 mile long Gotthard tunnel?
What a load of complete utter drivel; are you now making things up to make a point or so deluded to as to be blinded by confirmation bias, relying on sources which promote misinformation and disinformation?Not the earth, the sun.
And every other solar system and star is moving at different speeds.
It is said to take 230 million years for the sun to complete its orbit of the milky way.
So using those numbers they would say the movements we would see would be small.
But after thousands of years, the buildings that ancient peoples made to line up with celestial events,
still line up with those stars.
And Polaris should have moved, some sort of movement over thousands of years should be seen.
Is the Andromida galaxy moving exactly with us?
I could tell you of many ways that the global floodThere is plenty proof that there was a flood.
Please inform me of the proof otherwise, my main point with sentiments like the above, is that your not speaking like a Christian.
If the Bible is so figurative, was the death and resurrection of Christ figurative?
If we believe that Christ actually rose from the dead, then all the other "fanciful" things in the Bible can not be very far fetched.
Either the Bible is your anchor of truth or it is not.
If it is not, you will very likely go along with the world, when they tell you the Bible is wrong,
and that Jesus is really just a humanoid alien from the first 'planet' that 'evolved'.
That's a shadow from sunlight, those aren't parallel sun rays.Big nope there
By the time it reaches the earth, it pretty much is. The maximum angle between light from one extreme of the sun to another is minuscule over that distance.
You mean when light rays reach earth 93 million miles away, it takes 8 minutes for sunlight to reach earth.View attachment 345676
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The sun is a local light in the sky, held up by perhaps electromagnetism.
In this thread I posted about the cardboard cloud experiment one can do to see the difference between light that is local
to light that is far away. Local light spreads out.
Since stars drift out of position due to precession, Astronomical nutation - Wikipedia and Proper motion - Wikipedia astronomers need to redefine their positions in fifty year intervals known as epochs.This…..and obviously so.
Not the earth, the sun. And every other solar system and star is moving at different speeds.
It is said to take 230 million years for the sun to complete its orbit of the milky way. So using those numbers they would say the movements we would see would be small.
But after thousands of years, the buildings that ancient peoples made to line up with celestial events, still line up with those stars.
And Polaris should have moved, some sort of movement over thousands of years should be seen.
Is the Andromida galaxy moving exactly with us?
Between the shadows are rays of sunlight and they are parallel. If the light from the sun wasn't effectively parallel rays, the shadows formed by the clouds would not be sharp and distinct. The width of the sun is 32 arc minutes, just over half a degree.That's a shadow from sunlight, those aren't parallel sun rays.
The only reason sunlight is parallel is because of distance. The sun does not produce parallel rays.Between the shadows are rays of sunlight and they are parallel. If the light from the sun wasn't effectively parallel rays, the shadows formed by the clouds would not be sharp and distinct. The width of the sun is 32 arc minutes, just over half a degree.
Regardless, what support do you have for your claims other than your say so?
Probably epic. What is the point of the Joshua narrative?So in Joshua10:12-13 the account of the sun standing still and the moon stopping is an epic story or a true account?
What is it, a true story or just an "epic story" ?
Probably not. What is the point of the Job story?And Job chapter 38, that is not an account of Gods actual words?
Many times, yes.Therefore, anytime what the Bible says does not line up with modern "science" it is just poetry or an epic story?
There is always the possibility that also is not historical. That is why we need faith. So then how do we discern between figurative and literal? As I said, we need the guidance of our faith community.How does the death and resurrection of Christ line up with modern "science" ?
This doesn't address anything I have posted in response to your claims. Only a tiny fraction of light from the sun reaches the earth, and what does is practically parallel, within half a degree.The only reason sunlight is parallel is because of distance. The sun does not produce parallel rays.
Northern Pole Star | Southern Pole Star | |
|---|---|---|
Mercury | Omicron Draconis | Alpha Pictoris |
Venus | 42 Draconis | Eta Doradus |
Earth | Polaris | Sigma Octantis |
Moon | Omicron Draconis | Delta Doradus |
Mars | Line through Sadr and Deneb in Cygnus point to north celestial pole. | Kappa Velorum |
Jupiter | Zeta Draconis | Delta Doradus |
Saturn | No visible stars in far northern region of Cepheus. | Delta Octantis |
Uranus | Eta Ophiuchi | 15 Orionis |
Neptune | Spot midway between Gamma and Delta Cygni. | Gamma Velorum |
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