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LSDanakin said:Who is the Mother with 12 stars on her head and the sun on her dress?
But what about the sun?
Any clues?
Duke Nukem said:If you are familiar with the ancestral history of ancient Israel, you may remember that Joseph described one of his revelatory dreams to his family: "Then he ... said, 'Look, I have dreamed another dream. And this time, the sun, the moon, and the eleven stars bowed down to me.' So he told it to his father and his brothers; and his father rebuked him and said to him, 'What is this dream that you have dreamed? Shall your mother and I and your brothers indeed come to bow down to the earth before you? (Genesis 37:9-10).
Nevertheless, after Joseph became Pharaoh's chief deputy in Egypt, his family did bow before him. His dream proved to be a revelation from God.
Jacob, Joseph's father, quickly grasped the symbolism in Joseph's dream. The sun represented Jacob, the moon his wife and the stars his sons,12 in all, counting Joseph. In other words, the symbolism in Joseph's dream referred to Jacob's family, from which the ancient nation of Israel developed. The woman in Revelation 12, clothed with these same symbols, also represents Jacob's family, after it has expanded into a nation,God's chosen people Israel.
Woman = Jerusalem
Ga 4:26But Jerusalem which is above is free, which is the mother of us all.
This "woman" Jerusalem however has always played the harlot and will again in the last days.
Re 17:5And upon her forehead was a name written, MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH.
12 stars = 12 tribes
A no brainer especially when you understand "who" is the woman.
Again we see this harlot woman also with 12 stars or better termed heads.
Re 17:3So he carried me away in the spirit into the wilderness: and I saw a woman sit upon a scarlet coloured beast, full of names of blasphemy, having seven heads and ten horns.
Where are the other 2 horns to make 12? They are in the False Lamb the king of this city.
Re 13:11And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.
Clothed with the sun and moon = The Almighty
Re 10:1And I saw another mighty angel come down from heaven, clothed with a cloud: and a rainbow was upon his head, and his face was as it were the sun, and his feet as pillars of fire:
The true Lamb is clothed by the one who gives him HIS power.
Re 12:5And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne.
Mark.
quote Duke Nukem: If you are familiar with the ancestral history of ancient Israel, you may remember that Joseph described one of his revelatory dreams to his family: "Then he ... said, 'Look, I have dreamed another dream. And this time, the sun, the moon, and the eleven stars bowed down to me.' So he told it to his father and his brothers; and his father rebuked him and said to him, 'What is this dream that you have dreamed? Shall your mother and I and your brothers indeed come to bow down to the earth before you? (Genesis 37:9-10).
Nevertheless, after Joseph became Pharaoh's chief deputy in Egypt, his family did bow before him. His dream proved to be a revelation from God.
Jacob, Joseph's father, quickly grasped the symbolism in Joseph's dream. The sun represented Jacob, the moon his wife and the stars his sons,12 in all, counting Joseph. In other words, the symbolism in Joseph's dream referred to Jacob's family, from which the ancient nation of Israel developed. The woman in Revelation 12, clothed with these same symbols, also represents Jacob's family, after it has expanded into a nation,God's chosen people Israel.
The woman could also symbolize a type of JUDAH/JERUSALEM, since Jesus was to come from that house?Thoughts?quote Ross: Woman = Jerusalem
Ga 4:26But Jerusalem which is above is free, which is the mother of us all.
This "woman" Jerusalem however has always played the harlot and will again in the last days.
Re 17:5And upon her forehead was a name written, MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH.
12 stars = 12 tribes
A no brainer especially when you understand "who" is the woman.
Again we see this harlot woman also with 12 stars or better termed heads.
Re 17:3So he carried me away in the spirit into the wilderness: and I saw a woman sit upon a scarlet coloured beast, full of names of blasphemy, having seven heads and ten horns.
Where are the other 2 horns to make 12? They are in the False Lamb the king of this city.
Re 13:11And I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth; and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.
Clothed with the sun and moon = The Almighty
Re 10:1And I saw another mighty angel come down from heaven, clothed with a cloud: and a rainbow was upon his head, and his face was as it were the sun, and his feet as pillars of fire:
The true Lamb is clothed by the one who gives him HIS power.
Re 12:5And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne.
Mark.
Reve 5:5 But one of the elders said to me, "Do not weep. Behold, the Lion of the tribe of Judah, the Root of David, has prevailed to open the scroll and to loose its seven seals."Micah 5:2 " But you, Bethlehem Ephrathah, [Though] you are little among the thousands of Judah, [Yet] out of you shall come forth to Me The One to be Ruler in Israel, Whose goings forth [are] from of old, From everlasting."
(Young) Matthew 2:6 And thou, Beth-Lehem, the land of Judah, thou art by no means the least among the leaders of Judah, for out of thee shall come one leading, who shall feed My people Israel.'
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