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What does TFE mean?Why TFE was load of hog wash.
The Final Experiment, where flat earthers were invited along with some globe earthers to go to Antarctica in Summer and witness if there was a 24hour sunWhat does TFE mean?
The geometry of the video doesn’t take into account of a spherical earth. He is using flat earth geography to “prove” that global sun movement is wrong. It is circular logic. His math is wrong.Why TFE was load of hog wash.
SCAMTARCTICA 2- The Gleason Map & Impossible West to East Sun
View on Odysee: SCAMTARCTICA 2- The Gleason Map & Impossible West to East Sunodysee.com
Yes, which apparently you are unable to address.Prodromos what in Gods name are yu talking about . A broad claim without evidence yu say .
Ptolemy didn't only teach geocentrism, but he also taught the earth was a globe. You also appear to be arguing that because believers in a false religion accepted geocentrism, that it must therefore be true?Prodromos perhaps yu have not heard of Claudus Ptolemy 2nd century BC Greek Astronomer. It was his system the geocentric system that the world embraced and not only western civilisation but Islamic thought embraced it as well. This is just common knowledge.
Changing your argument again I see.Whilst the first challenges may have begun with Copernicus in the 16th the Ptolemaic system wasn’t toppled until the late 19th and early 20th century. The battle went back and forth a good 300-400 yrs.
You included the Orthodox Church in your broad claim, which is completely contrary to the facts. Thus, I know you are making stuff up without research.And what’s with saying I’m full of it.
It is a fact that you were full of it.You make it personal and not factual.
Vindictive? I'm simply calling out your falsehood.Why such vindictiveness from you ? Prodromos i not understand what got into yu to say that. I never say it of yu
Does not exactly lend credibility to @Apple Sky 's video, does it.It is not hard to find information about what you are asking about.
John Alexander Dowie - Wikipedia
Wilbur Glenn Voliva - Wikipedia
Presumably The Flat Earth?What does TFE mean?
I’m sure you can’t stand on the second floor of your house until is built. But after it is built there is a second story to your house that you can stand on.Apple One thing is certain that the Earth certainly not be wizzing around the sun. At least according to creation account. View attachment 374547
And then there is you who is alive today.Newspaper Articles on Flat Earth 1800's - 1960's
Newspaper Articles on Flat Earth 1800's - 1960's
View on Odysee: Newspaper Articles on Flat Earth 1800's - 1960'sodysee.com
Well of course the earth isn't totally flat. There are mountains and canyons after all. But it ain't no globe. An icosahedron maybe, but not a globe. Hopefully the giant aardvark carrying the earth on its back, won't get in itch and cause another major earthquake.Presumably The Flat Earth?
Which is, of course, nonsense. So was very surprised that Apple Sky described the TFE as a load of hog wash. I'm sure she has not changed her views.
I've no idea what the video was about. I don't usually watch a video without their being a summary of its main points.
It (the Flat Earth) contradicts everyday observations, which is why we know that the earth cannot be flat, so must be a globe.
You say I included the Orthodox Church in my claim. That’s right. They believed in the geocentric model as much as anyone else. So Absolutely yes . More so when many of the Church fathers say the same of luminaries be it the Sun or planets moving around the earth. Or did the great schism 1054 when you seperated from Rome did the Orthodox Church suddenly divorce the church fathers from their heritage as well. No they never. In Teresa’s Obolevitch’s paper ( Galileo in the Russian Orthodox context, history, philosophy,theology and science) ithe paper explores how the Russians in Galileo’s era looked upon the heliocentric system . Time and again the writing brings forth the Orthodox belief in a geocentric system and how eventually the heliocentric theory won the day. For you to claim that the Orthodox Church never embraced Ptolemys system is Just Not True . Are we to believe that it was only the Catholic and Protestant church that accepted Ptolemys geocentric model . No .Prodromus I don’t even understand why you would deny that . Yes the.Orthodox church certainly doesn’t believe the geocentric view point today . But we are not talking about today we talking about the past.Yes, which apparently you are unable to address.
Ptolemy didn't only teach geocentrism, but he also taught the earth was a globe. You also appear to be arguing that because believers in a false religion accepted geocentrism, that it must therefore be true?
Changing your argument again I see.
You included the Orthodox Church in your broad vlaim, which is completely contrary to the facts. Thus, I know you are making stuff up without research.
It is a fact that you were full of it.
Vindictive? I'm simply calling out your falsehood.
Where did I claim that?For you to claim that the Orthodox Church never embraced Ptolemys system is Just Not True
Well before the 19th century.Time and again the writing brings forth the Orthodox belief in a geocentric system and how eventually the heliocentric theory won the day.
You ignore that the Church Fathers profess a range of different interpretations of Genesis, from literal to allegorical. In some areas there is a clear consensus and in others there exists a wide range of views.Or did the great schism 1054 when you seperated from Rome did the Orthodox Church suddenly divorce the church fathers from their heritage as well.
That was more for @Apple Sky 's benefit.You than mention that Ptolemy also believed that the world is a globe . He certainly did . Where did I ever say he didn’t ???
You argued that Islam accepted the geocentric model. Islam is false religion, so how does that help your argument?You than say ( that I appear to be arguing that because believers in a false religion accepted Geocentrism, that it must true ) where did I say that?
OK but don't you count them all as fakes because they are NASA productions, and you think NASA always lies?Yes, I've watched many a NASA's videos.
Thanks, but having looked at both links I find nothing in either of them that refers to "Guiding Head" or Zion Colony." Those were the titles given to the person responsible for the videos in Apple Sky's links.-It is not hard to find information about what you are asking about.
John Alexander Dowie - Wikipedia
Wilbur Glenn Voliva - Wikipedia
I'm glad I wasn't the only one confused by the acronym. Apparently it stands for "The Final Experiment."Presumably The Flat Earth?
Which is, of course, nonsense. So was very surprised that Apple Sky described the TFE as a load of hog wash. I'm sure she has not changed her views.
I've no idea what the video was about. I don't usually watch a video without their being a summary of its main points.
It (the Flat Earth) contradicts everyday observations, which is why we know that the earth cannot be flat, so must be a globe.
That’s what you’ve been accusing me of in your last few posts . I simply said all mainline denominations including the Orthodox Church. They all embraced Ptolemys system which was geocentric even the Muslims.. it was the only viable alternative around at the timeWhere did I claim that?
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